Illuminati-R-Us

by **Lance** » Sun May 21, 2006 3:04 pm

In this thread, St. Jimmy wrote:I do think Bush is one of our dumber presidents, but I also think that he is a good guy, and if he were to bend the rules he wouldn't do any screwed up shit.

Then what is your opinion of President Bush "bending the rules" so the government can spy on American citizens? Don't you think that is "screwed up shit?

by **St. Jimmy** » Mon May 22, 2006 11:44 pm

My bad

.....I was thinking to specifically one topic without thinking about everything else, which I shoulda. Whoops, now I see why that made no sense. :oops:

by **Doe, John** » Tue May 23, 2006 3:34 am

Do you honestly think there has been a presidency when the government hasn't spyed on american citizens?

by **Enzo** » Tue May 23, 2006 3:42 am

quantify and qualify

many folks take a pen from work home with them. Not everyone embezzles a hundred thousand dollars a month.

There is fudging a bit, there is bending the rules a bit, then there is wholesale disregard for the rules.

If the speed limit through town is 35 and you go 40, they probably will overlook it. If you go 80, they shouldn't and won't.

by **Superluminal** » Tue May 23, 2006 3:57 am

Bending the rules during a war doesn't worry me too much. Lincoln practically shredded the constitution during the cival war, but the country survived. It's the chipping away here and there during peace time that worries me.

by **Doe, John** » Tue May 23, 2006 5:20 am

Technically we're still at war.

by **Enzo** » Tue May 23, 2006 7:21 am

The president likes to say so, but upon whom did COngress declare war? If COngress doesn't declare war, we are not AT war...technically. A "war on terror" is pretty much like a "war on drugs" or a "war on poverty." If the Congress temporarily grants the office some "wartime powers," that isn't exactly the same as being "at war." Kinda like wearing a prom dress doesn't mean you're going to the prom.