Lianachan wrote:Many years ago, I posted this at BAUT.
These days, we have this in the news, and it's not allegations from the cheese eating surrender monkeys that were so vilified by some of the BAUT community that first time round. It's looking like Nergal's Option B is the most likely of his scenarios now.
Heid the Ba' wrote:I'm not going back either. I ran through a whole list of rebuttals and rational arguments which were ignored then so no reason they would be taken seriously now.
Nergal on BAUT 7 years ago wrote:](A) He's benefited from a massive cover-up. I'll shoot that one down right now. There are elements in France that would love nothing more than for him to test positive, and the testing (from what I've read) is adequately independent.
(B) He's a doper, and he's covered it up. Ok, then that would make him the most spectacularly successful dope-test dodger in modern sports history. Many others have been busted for using the things he's accused of. The thought that he could go this many years, competing successfully at this high a level, and successfully evade detection is to much for me to beleive.
(C) He's clean.
In the abscense of evidence of (A) or (B), option (C) remains the only viable alternative.
Heid the Ba' wrote:Indeed, he went a lot further than I thought he would, though I have only heard soundbites.
There are still people on websites defending him.
I view this situation as one big lie I repeated a lot of times ~ Lance Armstrong
Oprah: Did you ever take banned substances to enhance cycling performance?
Armstrong: Yes
Ah, gotcha.Heid the Ba' wrote:Defending him on the "He cheated, so what? He raised money for cancer." basis;
There are? Sounds like a story that may not go away for a while, then.Heid the Ba' wrote:despite there being real doubts what the Livestrong money has actually been used for.
Arneb wrote:Hat off, Mr. Armstrong!
(Once, on a mountain stage of the Tour de France, I polished off three packs of cigarettes, and a bottle of whisky. So who's gonna replicate THAT now, eh!)
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