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RIP Margaret Thatcher

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:19 pm
by Heid the Ba
At least you knew where you stood with her, unlike Smug Tony and the rest. She had views she stuck to whether they were popular or not and if nothing else she told the IRA and the Argentinians to go fuck themselves.

Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:05 pm
by Arneb
And concerning popularity, there IS the fact that she won 3 general elections in a row.

Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:06 pm
by Lianachan

Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:29 pm
by tubeswell
Aw man! No Way ! I thought she died years ago!

Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:38 pm
by Heid the Ba
Arneb wrote:And concerning popularity, there IS the fact that she won 3 general elections in a row.


Of course, this is a regional thing, the further south you go the more popular she was.

Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:41 pm
by Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Great minds...

She's is responsible for making neoliberalism salonfähig, giving us the harsher, less just world we live in today.

Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:56 pm
by Lianachan
Halcyon Dayz, FCD wrote:

Great minds...

She's is responsible for making neoliberalism salonfähig, giving us the harsher, less just world we live in today.


Indeed. She also destroyed Scottish industry, and decimated the country. On the other hand, the realisation that Scotland needed to be protected from her and her sort at Westminster was probably a large factor in the return of the Scottish parliament (which she opposed).

Oh, and there's this great quote too:

‘We English, who are a marvelous people, are really very generous to Scotland.’

-- Margaret Thatcher, 1990

Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:21 am
by Lianachan
They are putting her in the ground today, if it will have her. £12 million her funeral is costing. They could have saved a lot of time and money (and simplified security) if they'd combined her funeral with the London marathon. David Cameron and anybody else who gives a shit could have carried her around the route, and they could have dropped her into the Thames while crossing Tower Bridge.

Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:20 pm
by Heid the Ba
Without wishing to go all Mactep about this but do you know how the figure was calculated? While there will be a very large cost it really shouldn't include things like the squaddies' wages etc. which are no doubt added in.

Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:27 pm
by Heid the Ba
Lianachan wrote:They are putting her in the ground today, if it will have her.

Plenty of pits round here she could use. :D :-D :grin:

Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:39 pm
by Lianachan
Heid the Ba' wrote:Without wishing to go all Mactep about this but do you know how the figure was calculated? While there will be a very large cost it really shouldn't include things like the squaddies' wages etc. which are no doubt added in.

True, a lot of the money (wages and whatnot) would have been getting spent anyway. The actual cost, and break down of it, hasn't been announced as far as I know - the internets suggest it will be confirmed afterwards. Any amount of money from the public purse is too much though, especially when she herself said she didn't want anything like that.

Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:40 pm
by Lianachan
Heid the Ba' wrote:
Lianachan wrote:They are putting her in the ground today, if it will have her.

Plenty of pits round here she could use. :D :-D :grin:


Actually, I think she's being cremated. She may not be for turning, but looks like she's for burning. If they can find a furnace or some coal.

Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:38 pm
by Мастер
Lianachan wrote:Any amount of money from the public purse is too much though, especially when she herself said she didn't want anything like that.


A while back, I got chewed out for using a tripod to photograph this rather grandiose mausoleum for Ho Chi Minh. (It's OK to photograph, just not with a tripod - the reasoning behind this one escapes me somewhat.) My understanding is that he had wanted something quite modest.

Not sure whether Vladimir Ulyanov or Mao Zedong would have approved of being scotch-gaurded and put on display. I suppose we could ask them . . .

Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:06 pm
by Lianachan

Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:25 pm
by Arneb
Well, it WAS in a rotten weather.

Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:54 am
by tubeswell


They didn't even go to the trouble of sticking up an outdoor screen for it in Wellington AFAICT

Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:28 am
by Heid the Ba
As Arneb said it wasn't the best day and the screen is in a business area so everyone would be at work. I don't think it would have drawn much of a crowd in any circumstances though.

There was a piece on the news last night from an old mining village near Edinburgh which was simple embarassing as a selection of elderly drunks rambled on while having a party to celebrate.

Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:31 am
by Lianachan
Heid the Ba' wrote:As Arneb said it wasn't the best day and the screen is in a business area so everyone would be at work. I don't think it would have drawn much of a crowd in any circumstances though.


Indeed. The picture, which I notice is no longer available from my link, was quite funny though.

Heid the Ba' wrote:There was a piece on the news last night from an old mining village near Edinburgh which was simple embarassing as a selection of elderly drunks rambled on while having a party to celebrate.


Watched a bit of that with no sound, but I got the gist of it. Deary me.

Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:03 am
by Мастер
Image

I've had a glass or two of wine along with a slice or two of pizza there, a couple of times . . .

https://www.google.com/maps?ll=51.51358 ... .77,,0,6.2

Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:09 pm
by Heid the Ba
tubeswell wrote:They didn't even go to the trouble of sticking up an outdoor screen for it in Wellington AFAICT

That screen is there permanantly, usually just showing the business news.

Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:10 pm
by Heid the Ba
Мастер wrote:[I've had a glass or two of wine along with a slice or two of pizza there, a couple of times . . .

I was in that same PizzaExpress at Easter, very pleasant it was too. :D :-D :grin:

Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:15 pm
by Мастер
Does Ola still work there?

Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:31 pm
by Lianachan
Heid the Ba' wrote:
Мастер wrote:[I've had a glass or two of wine along with a slice or two of pizza there, a couple of times . . .

I was in that same PizzaExpress at Easter, very pleasant it was too. :D :-D :grin:


I've not been in that part of London for years. These days, I mainly find myself around the Canary Wharf side of the city.

Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:14 pm
by Heid the Ba
Мастер wrote:Does Ola still work there?

There was a slim dark haired waitress, early 20s with a middle/eastern european accent. We didn't get to a first name basis.

Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:52 pm
by Мастер
Lianachan wrote:I've not been in that part of London for years. These days, I mainly find myself around the Canary Wharf side of the city.


Not counting Heathrow stopovers, I think I've been in London six times in my life. Five of those times were from 2010--2012. And on one of those, I must have seen Canary Wharf six or seven times form the air, as we circled, and circled, and circled, and circled :(