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RIP Boston Marathon

Postby Enzo » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:38 pm

I have only seen some preliminary reports, but apparently someone has set off a couple bombs near the finish line in Boston, and I think they found another that had not detonated. At least a couple people dead and many injured.
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Re: RIP Boston Marathon

Postby Arneb » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:09 pm

My German news site also reported that a thir bomb did go off in the Kennedy Library in Boston, or at least that there was a fire there at around the time when the explosions at the finish line occurred.

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Re: RIP Boston Marathon

Postby wring » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:51 pm

Library fire now considered to be not related.
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Re: RIP Boston Marathon

Postby tubeswell » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:50 am

This is a terrible tragedy. Other words fail me.
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Re: RIP Boston Marathon

Postby Мастер » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:08 am

I sure as hell hope they'll now be invading some country other than the one I'm in . . .
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Re: RIP Boston Marathon

Postby Lance » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:33 am

Let's invade North Korea. I'm sure they are responsible.
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Re: RIP Boston Marathon

Postby Мастер » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:50 am

Lance wrote:Let's invade North Korea. I'm sure they are responsible.


It's entirely possible that everyone would have headed down that road soon enough without any bombs in Boston . . .
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Re: RIP Boston Marathon

Postby Lance » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:05 am

Мастер wrote:
Lance wrote:Let's invade North Korea. I'm sure they are responsible.


It's entirely possible that everyone would have headed down that road soon enough without any bombs in Boston . . .

True, but now that we have something substantial that we can pin on them it is that much easier. Hell, they've admitted to having WMDs and we know they were shopping for "yellow-cake" uranium. What else do we need?
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Re: RIP Boston Marathon

Postby Arneb » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:07 am

Lance wrote:
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Lance wrote:Let's invade North Korea. I'm sure they are responsible.


It's entirely possible that everyone would have headed down that road soon enough without any bombs in Boston . . .

True, but now that we have something substantial that we can pin on them it is that much easier. Hell, they've admitted to having WMDs and we know they were shopping for "yellow-cake" uranium. What else do we need?


Lance, you...you don't happen to be Dick Cheney IRL, do you? :shock:
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Re: RIP Boston Marathon

Postby Мастер » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:08 am

Lance wrote:
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Lance wrote:Let's invade North Korea. I'm sure they are responsible.


It's entirely possible that everyone would have headed down that road soon enough without any bombs in Boston . . .

True, but now that we have something substantial that we can pin on them it is that much easier. Hell, they've admitted to having WMDs and we know they were shopping for "yellow-cake" uranium. What else do we need?


I thought they were going the plutonium route, but maybe I'm confused . . .
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Re: RIP Boston Marathon

Postby MM_Dandy » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:44 am

In case you are looking to find anyone from the chaos: Google Person Finder.

3 dead, 144 injured at last count.
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Re: RIP Boston Marathon

Postby Heid the Ba » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:00 am

I find it hard to muster sympathy for a city which was home to NORAID and other IRA fundraisers, and where bars regularly took collections and provided support for the IRA and INLA. I don't remember the people of Boston or their politicians (the Kennedys in particular) showing any support for the victims of the IRA and INLA, the very opposite in fact.
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Re: RIP Boston Marathon

Postby Lance » Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:14 pm

I'm surprised this sort of thing hasn't become commonplace in the US.
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Re: RIP Boston Marathon

Postby Мастер » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:17 pm

Lance wrote:I'm surprised this sort of thing hasn't become commonplace in the US.


I think it is this John Mueller fellow at Ohio who likes to argue that there is very little terrorism, because there are very few terrorists. In response to arguments that the measures put into place after 2001 in the US must be working because there had been no major terrorist attack on the US soil in the following five years, he would point out that there was no major terrorist attack on US soil in the previous five years.
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Re: RIP Boston Marathon

Postby Мастер » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:37 pm

Heid the Ba' wrote:I find it hard to muster sympathy for a city which was home to NORAID and other IRA fundraisers, and where bars regularly took collections and provided support for the IRA and INLA. I don't remember the people of Boston or their politicians (the Kennedys in particular) showing any support for the victims of the IRA and INLA, the very opposite in fact.


Yes, I thought the Mountbattens might be behind it.
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Re: RIP Boston Marathon

Postby Arneb » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:30 pm

Heid the Ba' wrote:I find it hard to muster sympathy for a city which was home to NORAID and other IRA fundraisers, and where bars regularly took collections and provided support for the IRA and INLA. I don't remember the people of Boston or their politicians (the Kennedys in particular) showing any support for the victims of the IRA and INLA, the very opposite in fact.


I admit I find it hard to go along with that statement. NORAID wasn't bombed, people were. Do the parents of the 8 yo boy deserve any less sympathy because (if at all) they are Bostonians?
If someone bombed the finish area of the Berlin marathon area, would you find it hard to sympathize with grieving Berliners because the Nazis, who marched through that very Brandenburg gate, were so evil?
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Re: RIP Boston Marathon

Postby Heid the Ba » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:39 am

Boston as a city elected Ted Kennedy and others who gave support for terrorists who bombed indiscriminately, it wasn't a minority. It is a cultural thing among a lot of the population, IRA songs playing in bars, students drinking cocktails called "Irish car bombs", collecting tins at the bar for "the boys across the water" and so on. Those same people are looking for my sympathy now they are on the other end of it.

Berlin would get my sympathy, not for what was done in the past but for the remorse shown for those actions, remorse which is completely missing in Boston.
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Re: RIP Boston Marathon

Postby Lianachan » Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:01 pm

I do feel sympathy for Bostonians, as I would people anywhere that something like this occurred, but I'm pretty annoyed at the news coverage and commentary when weighed against the level of coverage of events on the same day that killed over 10 times as many human beings.
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Re: RIP Boston Marathon

Postby Heid the Ba » Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:09 pm

I completely missed that; I thought you were going with this.
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Re: RIP Boston Marathon

Postby Мастер » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:40 pm

Lianachan wrote:I do feel sympathy for Bostonians, as I would people anywhere that something like this occurred, but I'm pretty annoyed at the news coverage and commentary when weighed against the level of coverage of events on the same day that killed over 10 times as many human beings.


But those weren't Americans.

More generally, the last I checked, it would be > 10,000 a day lost to malnutrition.
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Re: RIP Boston Marathon

Postby Lianachan » Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:00 pm

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Lianachan wrote:I do feel sympathy for Bostonians, as I would people anywhere that something like this occurred, but I'm pretty annoyed at the news coverage and commentary when weighed against the level of coverage of events on the same day that killed over 10 times as many human beings.


But those weren't Americans.

More generally, the last I checked, it would be > 10,000 a day lost to malnutrition.


Indeed. That falls outwith Stalin's (fictional?) "tragedy" firmly into the "statistic" category, though.
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Re: RIP Boston Marathon

Postby Enzo » Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:15 pm

Hell, we lose something like 800 a week on our highways.
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Re: RIP Boston Marathon

Postby Мастер » Fri May 31, 2013 11:46 am

Enzo wrote:Hell, we lose something like 800 a week on our highways.


I just checked. Unless "we" is more than the US, it's closer to 600 :)

It used to be much higher, though. 1972 takes top honours, at over 1,000 a week.
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Re: RIP Boston Marathon

Postby Enzo » Fri May 31, 2013 11:01 pm

OK, it used to be about 40,000 a year when I was on radio, so that number is stuck in my head. If it is down to 30,000, then good for us... I think.
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