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Re: Guess what the Graph Shows!

Postby Мастер » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:32 pm

Lianachan wrote:Number of people shot for chewing gum on the MRT?


i) One doesn't get shot for that.
ii) Those would be rather eerily precise forecasts for the future years.
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Re: Guess what the Graph Shows!

Postby MM_Dandy » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:43 pm

Number of days when 90% or more of departures and arrivals run on time.
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Re: Guess what the Graph Shows!

Postby Мастер » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:46 pm

MM_Dandy wrote:Number of days when 90% or more of departures and arrivals run on time.


So, those would be rather odd future projections for such a thing, don't you think?
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Re: Guess what the Graph Shows!

Postby MM_Dandy » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:55 pm

Probably. I'd imagine stations and lines opening and closing along with population changes might keep it somewhat variable, though.
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Re: Guess what the Graph Shows!

Postby Arneb » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:56 pm

Number of new railway stations opened in Singapore, by year?
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Re: Guess what the Graph Shows!

Postby Мастер » Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:20 am

Arneb wrote:Number of new railway stations opened in Singapore, by year?


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Metro stations, I.e., the Sentosa monorail, the airport train, and the railroad to Malaysia/Thailand not included. When a new line opens at an existing station, that is counted as a new station (and with a few exceptions, it is physically distinct from the existing station).
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Re: Guess what the Graph Shows!

Postby Lance » Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:55 pm

Мастер wrote:
Lance wrote:Number of tropical cyclones that made land-fall in a Singapore by year?

I think that would be zero.

There are no tropical depressions/tropical storms/hurricanes/typhoons there?

I think there are.

Weather Online wrote:Typhoons can hit Singapore from July to mid November, and can sometimes cause heavy damage, flooding and erosion. However, In general Typhoons prefer other routes, and are quite seldom in Singapore.


Maybe not many but certainly >0.
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Re: Guess what the Graph Shows!

Postby Мастер » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:15 pm

Lance wrote:There are no tropical depressions/tropical storms/hurricanes/typhoons there?


OK, I think I did not know the current definition of "cyclone" - I thought it was more or less synonymous with typhoon.

Storms, we get those all the time.

Lance wrote:Maybe not many but certainly >0.


They're pretty rate.

In any event, if that had been what's in the graph, it would be a rather eerie pattern of future predictions, don't you think?
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Re: Guess what the Graph Shows!

Postby Мастер » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:18 pm

OK, I found this site:

http://www.straitstimes.com/the-big-sto ... y-20131022

which seems to use a much stricter definition of "cyclone". It also mentions that there has only been one in Singapore in living memory.
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Re: Guess what the Graph Shows!

Postby Arneb » Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:07 pm

So, here's the next graph: From my own field of work, and from my own neck of the woods.
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Re: Guess what the Graph Shows!

Postby tubeswell » Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:50 am

something where children under 15 years are measured for something
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Re: Guess what the Graph Shows!

Postby Arneb » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:27 am

Yes, theeor numbers are represented by the blue line at the bottom. The inset reads Total - Adults - Children < 15
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Re: Guess what the Graph Shows!

Postby Мастер » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:44 am

So I'm thinking it's number of cases of some disease.
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Re: Guess what the Graph Shows!

Postby Arneb » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:46 am

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Re: Guess what the Graph Shows!

Postby Lance » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:44 pm

Мастер wrote:In any event, if that had been what's in the graph, it would be a rather eerie pattern of future predictions, don't you think?

Well, yeah, then there's that.

I'm not sure I agree with the more strict definition of the term since it is pretty clearly defined already. The whole reason I chose it was because of how broad it was.

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Re: Guess what the Graph Shows!

Postby Мастер » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:52 pm

Lance wrote:Well, yeah, then there's that.

I'm not sure I agree with the more strict definition of the term since it is pretty clearly defined already. The whole reason I chose it was because of how broad it was.

Tropical Cyclone Climatology


It looks like it might be one of those words that has different scientific and "everyday" meanings. Like "theory" :)

It rains quite a lot here. We just don't get the storms with really powerful winds.
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Re: Guess what the Graph Shows!

Postby Lance » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:05 pm

Мастер wrote:It looks like it might be one of those words that has different scientific and "everyday" meanings. Like "theory" :)

That makes sense.
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Re: Guess what the Graph Shows!

Postby MM_Dandy » Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:36 pm

Do the top two lines indicate thousands while the bottom line indicates hundreds, then?
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Re: Guess what the Graph Shows!

Postby Мастер » Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:29 pm

It seems there are two people are are neither adults nor children under the age of 15.
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Re: Guess what the Graph Shows!

Postby Мастер » Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:32 pm

I can't work out how two of the curves are supposed to add up to the other. None of the interpretations which occur to me seem to fit.
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Re: Guess what the Graph Shows!

Postby Arneb » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:08 pm

The curves are mathematically derived from the numbers in a typical way. Where the numbers written beside the curves don't add up (light blue+red=dark blue), thats' rounding errors.
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Re: Guess what the Graph Shows!

Postby Мастер » Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:51 am

Arneb wrote:The curves are mathematically derived from the numbers in a typical way. Where the numbers written beside the curves don't add up (light blue+red=dark blue), thats' rounding errors.


The top curve is not just the sum of the bottom two. So I thought, perhaps the curves are percentages, and we have to weight them when adding up, with the numbers in the legend being the size of the population. However, that doesn't seem to work.
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Re: Guess what the Graph Shows!

Postby Lance » Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:50 am

Anything to do with birth rates?
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Re: Guess what the Graph Shows!

Postby Arneb » Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:23 pm

Lance wrote:Anything to do with birth rates?

Nope. I would surely hope we don't have measureable birth rates in people under 15.
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Re: Guess what the Graph Shows!

Postby Arneb » Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:30 pm

Ok, clarification and correction.

1. You are right, the numbers beside the data points in the coloured lines do NOT add up, and on further thought, there is no reason why they should. However, that 4040+178 does not quite add up to 2220 can be ignored and reprresents uncertainties in the data collection.
2. The numbers in the box are "raw" numbers (of cases) from the last time point. These numbers were used to calculate the data point on the timeline for the 2012 time point.
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