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Re: Real Life Quotes
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Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:35 amby Heid the Ba
It was an Ottoman province, or part of one. It was certainly referred to as Iraq in Britain.
Re: Real Life Quotes
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Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:24 amby Мастер
OK, so it could be related to any one of several incidents over a > 100 year period then.
So many possibilities . . .
Re: Real Life Quotes
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Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:31 amby Мастер
Heid the Ba' wrote:We have been to Iraq so often it isn't funny. Churchill in the Great War? about General Townsend and Kut? Google that if you think the more recent Gulf Wars were clusterfucks.
Huh. In that case, it would seem Tony Blair missed a splendid opportunity to get the Iraqis all angry at the Americans instead of the UK. (Well the first part appears to have been highly successful, but not the second.)
Re: Real Life Quotes
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Sat Nov 29, 2014 4:16 amby MM_Dandy
I'll go with Putin with the not so subtle jab at the West.
Re: Real Life Quotes
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Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:17 amby Arneb
We have a winner!
I was on some website gathering his quotes, and I must say that the guy is remarkable. He really got the hang on combining the traditional Soviet mix of lies and distorted semi-truths with the modern glib politician media savviness. Awesome PR.
Re: Real Life Quotes
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Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:22 amby Мастер
Arneb wrote:We have a winner!
I was on some website gathering his quotes, and I must say that the guy is remarkable. He really got the hang on combining the traditional Soviet mix of lies and distorted semi-truths with the modern glib politician media savviness. Awesome PR.
Ooh, that's a bit courageous for him - I would have thought that would have begged for a counter-jibe regarding Afghanistan in the 1980s. Of course, an Afghanistan counter-jibe might itself be subject to a counter-counter-jibe, depending on who delivers the counter-jibe.
Re: Real Life Quotes
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Sat Nov 29, 2014 6:34 pmby Arneb
Мастер wrote:Arneb wrote:We have a winner!
I was on some website gathering his quotes, and I must say that the guy is remarkable. He really got the hang on combining the traditional Soviet mix of lies and distorted semi-truths with the modern glib politician media savviness. Awesome PR.
Ooh, that's a bit courageous for him - I would have thought that would have begged for a counter-jibe regarding Afghanistan in the 1980s. Of course, an Afghanistan counter-jibe might itself be subject to a counter-counter-jibe, depending on who delivers the counter-jibe.
He'd no doubt retorted with something on the currently downwinding Afghan campaign by evil old NATO, delivered elegantly off the cuff. The guy is definitely not a weakling oligarch puppet (like Yanucovich was), he is very very much on top of his game.
Re: Real Life Quotes
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Mon Dec 01, 2014 6:14 pmby MM_Dandy
Political leaders still think things can be done through force, but that cannot solve terrorism. Backwardness is the breeding ground of terror, and that is what we have to fight.
Re: Real Life Quotes
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Mon Dec 01, 2014 6:15 pmby Lance
Some dove-pussy?
Re: Real Life Quotes
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Mon Dec 01, 2014 6:18 pmby MM_Dandy
Lance wrote:Some dove-pussy?
I'm afraid I'll need a name to go with that characterization.
Re: Real Life Quotes
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Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:38 pmby Arneb
Well, since we are getting used to hear quotations from people you wouldn't associate with their own quotes, I am going to make a bold move:
Goerge W. Bush?
Re: Real Life Quotes
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Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:14 pmby MM_Dandy
Good guess, but no.
I'm not sure if he would be expected to say something like this or not - the quote comes from a 2008 interview, quite some time after he had much influence in the world.
Re: Real Life Quotes
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Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:27 pmby Arneb
Yeah, I would have guessed he saif that in a TIME interview some years before the infamous 2000 election, when he was all about constructive compassionate, conservatism. You know, something to sound thoughtful in order to give a good impression to East Coast libruls.
OK, 2008. So probably no significant politician of the time, no religious leader (these wouldn't ever ask for more modernism), and probably not someone who just took part in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars (if it wasn't Don Rumsfeld otr Dick Cheney - although they would be capable of such blatant cynicism. Easily).
Not Hillary, no?
Re: Real Life Quotes
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Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:56 pmby Мастер
Gorbachev?
Re: Real Life Quotes
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Tue Dec 02, 2014 3:13 amby MM_Dandy
Another good guess, Arneb, but it goes to Mactep. It was indeed Gorbachev.
Re: Real Life Quotes
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Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:44 amby Arneb
Well, I consider that to be good news.
At least that guy was sincere.
Re: Real Life Quotes
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Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:52 amby Мастер
MM_Dandy wrote:the quote comes from a 2008 interview, quite some time after he had much influence in the world.
I found this to be very helpful.
Had my guess been wrong, my next guess would have been James Earl Carter.
Re: Real Life Quotes
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Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:27 pmby Мастер
Give me six lines written by the most honest man in the world, and I will find enough in them to hang him.
Re: Real Life Quotes
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Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:58 pmby Heid the Ba
Oooooooooooh history, I know this one.
Cardinal Richelieu (sp?) Best played by Peter Capaldi in The Musketeers.
Re: Real Life Quotes
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Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:25 pmby Lance
Heid the Ba' wrote:Oooooooooooh history, I know this one.
Cardinal Richelieu (sp?) Best played by Peter Capaldi in The Musketeers.
Oh, I think
Tim Curry did a heck of a job in
The Three Musketeers (1993).
Re: Real Life Quotes
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Wed Dec 03, 2014 7:10 pmby Heid the Ba
I had forgotten him, he did it exactly as you would expect.
Re: Real Life Quotes
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Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:25 pmby MM_Dandy
Heid the Ba' wrote:I had forgotten him, he did it exactly as you would expect.
With just a jump to the left...
Re: Real Life Quotes
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Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:40 pmby Lance
MM_Dandy wrote:Heid the Ba' wrote:I had forgotten him, he did it exactly as you would expect.
With just a jump to the left...
ROTFLMAO!
Re: Real Life Quotes
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Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:27 amby Heid the Ba
And then a step to the right . . .
Re: Real Life Quotes
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Thu Dec 04, 2014 2:06 pmby Мастер
Heid the Ba' is right! Although the authenticity of the quote has apparently been questioned.