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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Мастер » Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:34 pm

Arneb wrote:As a documentary yesterday, called it, the day the Sun fell from the sky.


How would you say that? Der Tag die Sonne fiel aus die Himmel?

I may be making inappropriate comparisons to the English, but from another thread, the "Hast Du etwas Zeit für mich" just doesn't ring true to me. But I'm still a good ways away from fluency.

If I've got my time zones right, it's already tomorrow in Japan.
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Arneb » Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:10 pm

Der Tag, an dem die Sonne vom Himmel fiel.

(Tag is masculine, and a relative clause always has a relative pronoun. Something happens AN einem Tag. In my own translation, I may have produced a Germanism by using "from" instead of "out of", which might have been the more elegant way to put it in English)

Hast du etwas Zeit für mich,
Dann singe ich ein Lied für dich,
Von 99 Luftballons
Und ihrem Weg zum Horizont.

That IS the original Nena, not great poetry but grammatically correct German. It was just sampled to death in the song you posted. She was never a singer with a clear pronounciation, it has to be said. I never had much time for her slurry singing. I used to describe it as "nölig" ("moany" or "dawdly").
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Мастер » Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:29 am

Arneb wrote:Der Tag, an dem die Sonne vom Himmel fiel.

(Tag is masculine, and a relative clause always has a relative pronoun. Something happens AN einem Tag. In my own translation, I may have produced a Germanism by using "from" instead of "out of", which might have been the more elegant way to put it in English)


Arg, I need to start up again with this. For some reason, I was thinking it was OK to leave out the relative pronoun, and then not push the verb to the end. I must be thinking of the rule for something else.

ETA - yes, I think I got confused, and was remembering how you could use "dass" with verb-at-the-end word order in a subordinate clause, or leave out the "dass".

Arneb wrote:Hast du etwas Zeit für mich,
Dann singe ich ein Lied für dich,
Von 99 Luftballons
Und ihrem Weg zum Horizont.

That IS the original Nena, not great poetry but grammatically correct German. It was just sampled to death in the song you posted. She was never a singer with a clear pronounciation, it has to be said. I never had much time for her slurry singing. I used to describe it as "nölig" ("moany" or "dawdly").


It's the "'etwas Zeit" that grates on me. You can actually say that? I thought "etwas" was used like English "something", in place of a noun, not as a modifier.

Another ETA - you wouldn't say "einige Zeit"?
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Arneb » Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:31 am

"Etwas" in this context is is an indeterminate numeral, "some", "a small amount of", "a bit of", not the pronoun meaning "something". It's pretty standard, especially with "Zeit", but also "etwas Geld" or, in recipes, "etwas Salz hinzufügen". Das zu lernen kostet etwas Zeit und Energie, ist aber nicht so schwer. :D
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Мастер » Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:41 am

Or, given where I am right now, Hast Du etwas Blut für mich.
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Arneb » Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:17 am

Romania?
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Мастер » Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:19 am

Arneb wrote:Romania?


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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Мастер » Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:49 pm

At least, that's where I was.

Now, I am in an outdoor café, and in every direction I look, there are women in the 20-25 age range, sporting the modern minimalistic clothing style.

This really doesn't happen to me often.
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Arneb » Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:38 pm

It's a tough life.
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby g-one » Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:22 pm

Perhaps you should complain to the manager. ;)
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Heid the Ba » Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:09 pm

Arneb wrote:It's a tough life.

Someone has to do it, Mactep is taking one for the team.
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Lianachan » Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:06 pm

Heid the Ba wrote:
Arneb wrote:It's a tough life.

Someone has to do it, Mactep is taking one for the team.

Indeed. Thank you for your service, Mactep.
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby g-one » Sat Aug 08, 2020 4:31 pm

Proof is in the pictures. ;)
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Мастер » Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:50 am

9 August 378 - Goths defeat Romans.

9 August 1945 - Der Tag, an dem die Sonne zum zweiten Mal vom Himmel fiel.

9 August 1965 - Singapore becomes the world’s only involuntarily independent country.
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Мастер » Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:35 am

g-one wrote:Proof is in the pictures. ;)


I think taking pictures would have been perceived as creepy, and I didn't want people to get the right idea.
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Arneb » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:50 am

60 years ago today, an obscure bar (the "Indra Club") in Hamburg's red light district, St. Pauli, hosted an obscure rock'n'roll quintet. They had just arrived from Liverpool, playing their first gig abroad. Their repertoire was slim, their intrumental proficiency, well, left room for improvement. They had to play 4 1/2 hrs. Tuesday through Friday, 6 on Saturday and Sunday. They learned fast.
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Arneb » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:46 am

Birthdays...

175, King Ludwig II of Bavaria, of Neuschwanstein, Herrenchiemsee, Linderhof, Bayreuth Festival Hall and suspicious "suicide" fame.
108, Erich Honecker, of GDR infamy
102, Leonard Bernstein, of various musical fames
90, Sean Connery, of Sean Connery fame.
50, Claudia Schiffer, of modelling fame
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Lianachan » Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:17 pm

August 25th in astronomical anniversaries:

1609 – Galileo Galilei demonstrates his first telescope to Venetian lawmakers.
1835 -The New York Sun announces the discovery of life and civilization on the Moon.
1981 - Voyager 2’s closest approach to Saturn.
1989 - Voyager 2’s closest approach to Neptune.
2012 - Voyager 1 becomes the first man made object to enter interstellar space.
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Arneb » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:03 pm

Lianachan wrote:2012 - Voyager 1 becomes the first man made object to enter interstellar space.


Althought that is disputed... (hover over image for elaboration)
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Lianachan » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:18 pm

Arneb wrote:
Lianachan wrote:2012 - Voyager 1 becomes the first man made object to enter interstellar space.


Althought that is disputed... (hover over image for elaboration)


Hey, I never said it was the first or last time it became the first man-made object to enter interstellar space :)
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Мастер » Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:38 pm

Мастер wrote:At least, that's where I was.

Now, I am in an outdoor café, and in every direction I look, there are women in the 20-25 age range, sporting the modern minimalistic clothing style.

This really doesn't happen to me often.


Taking this private . . .
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Lianachan » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:37 am

17th September, 1745: The first part of the good guy’s army, numbering a little over 700, enters Edinburgh, and Quartmaster-General John O’Sullivan takes command of the city.
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Arneb » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:52 am

90 years ago, today, one Johannes Ostermeier filed a patent for the first flashlight bulb. It consisted of an ordinary glas lamp filled with oxygen and corrugated aluminium foil. The mixture could be ignited with the small voltage from an ordinary battery-powered hand-held lamp and put an end to blinding and terrifying magnseium flashes that distorted and sometimes burnt the faces of portraitees.

Also, Romy Schneider would be 82 today. She left us far too early.
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Lianachan » Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:14 pm

275 years ago on 9 October 1745, seven prominent Jacobite officers conducted a brief court martial to indict seven soldiers from Donald Cameron of Lochiel's regiment for deserting the army's encampment in Edinburgh. Recaptured near Ladymuir about four miles from the capital, they were set to be publicly executed by firing squad the following day.

All seven men were reprieved later on the 9th by Charles Edward Stuart himself on account of having 'behav'd themselves well' at the Battle of Prestonpans. The condition of their release was that they renew their oaths to Jacobite service and never 'fall again into ye like Heinous Crimes for which there will be no further Hopes of Pardon'.
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Мастер » Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:52 pm

Bugger, missed 30 years of die neue Bundesländer.

On this day, 10 October, in 2020, Мастер spent four hours in hospital, had two x-rays taken, left with three medications and some sort of patch, and paid a total of 71 quid.
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