On this day in history...

All the game threads. (It's only teenage wasteland.)

Re: On this day in history...

Postby Heid the Ba » Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:15 am

European IrU in a nutshell: High culture from Arneb, a dead royal and a disgraced royal from Lianachan and trivia about a man in very tight trousers from me. :D

All it needs is HDFCD to swoop out of the shadows with something apt or pithy and then disappear again.
Get it up ye.
User avatar
Heid the Ba
Enlightened One
Enlightened One
Tree hugging, veggie, sandal wearing, pinko Euroweasel
Mr. Sexy Ass
 
Posts: 107530
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:20 pm
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

Re: On this day in history...

Postby Мастер » Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:57 pm

Heid the Ba' wrote:European IrU in a nutshell:


:-
They call me Mr Celsius!
User avatar
Мастер
Moderator
Moderator
Злой Мудак
Mauerspecht
 
Posts: 23929
Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:56 pm
Location: Far from Damascus

Re: On this day in history...

Postby Heid the Ba » Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:56 pm

I was counting you as our sole Asian representative, although obviously one of us really.
Get it up ye.
User avatar
Heid the Ba
Enlightened One
Enlightened One
Tree hugging, veggie, sandal wearing, pinko Euroweasel
Mr. Sexy Ass
 
Posts: 107530
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:20 pm
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

Re: On this day in history...

Postby Мастер » Tue Jun 02, 2015 2:18 pm

Heid the Ba' wrote:I was counting you as our sole Asian representative, although obviously one of us really.


Yes, well, my connection to Europe is largely by citizenship, and I don't speak the language of that country, and have probably been there less than two months in my life :)
They call me Mr Celsius!
User avatar
Мастер
Moderator
Moderator
Злой Мудак
Mauerspecht
 
Posts: 23929
Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:56 pm
Location: Far from Damascus

Re: On this day in history...

Postby Arneb » Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:19 am

275 years ago today, days after ascending to the throne, Frederick II of Prussia, later known as Frederick the great, was the first monarch to partly abolish torture as a means of gathering criminal evidence. There were exceptions for attacks on the King, high treason and murders with multiple victims. So broadly speaking, 275 years Prussia was where the U.S. is today.
Non sunt multiplicanda entia praeter necessitatem
User avatar
Arneb
Moderator
Moderator
German Medical Dude
God of All Things IT
 
Posts: 70001
Joined: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:22 pm
Location: Potsdam, Germany

Re: On this day in history...

Postby Lianachan » Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:31 am

1,390 years before then on June 3rd (350 CE), Nepotianus entered Rome, proclaiming himself as Emperor. His head was stuck on a lance and paraded around the city on the 30th of June, so it didn't really pan out very well for him.
A-nis bidh fios aig daoine nuair a tha mi a 'mionnachadh aig dhaibh.
User avatar
Lianachan
Enlightened One
Enlightened One
Tits and Nazis though.... Worth investigating
 
Posts: 8742
Joined: Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:12 pm
Location: A' Ghàidhealtachd, Alba

Re: On this day in history...

Postby Heid the Ba » Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:04 am

Not the longest reigning emperor then, but probably not the worst.

I didn't know that about Alt Fritz, he doesn't have a reputation as a liberal.
Get it up ye.
User avatar
Heid the Ba
Enlightened One
Enlightened One
Tree hugging, veggie, sandal wearing, pinko Euroweasel
Mr. Sexy Ass
 
Posts: 107530
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:20 pm
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

Re: On this day in history...

Postby Lianachan » Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:38 pm

I don't really know much about Alt Fritz, but liberals were pretty rare in those days. Almost as rare as they are now.
A-nis bidh fios aig daoine nuair a tha mi a 'mionnachadh aig dhaibh.
User avatar
Lianachan
Enlightened One
Enlightened One
Tits and Nazis though.... Worth investigating
 
Posts: 8742
Joined: Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:12 pm
Location: A' Ghàidhealtachd, Alba

Re: On this day in history...

Postby Heid the Ba » Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:44 pm

Arse, on looking the chap up to find a link to his deeds I found that I had missed an "e" off the end. So Alte Fritz. No doubt another grammar lesson from Arneb or Mactep will follow.
Get it up ye.
User avatar
Heid the Ba
Enlightened One
Enlightened One
Tree hugging, veggie, sandal wearing, pinko Euroweasel
Mr. Sexy Ass
 
Posts: 107530
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:20 pm
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

Re: On this day in history...

Postby Lianachan » Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:56 pm

Heid the Ba' wrote:Arse, on looking the chap up to find a link to his deeds I found that I had missed an "e" off the end. So Alte Fritz. No doubt another grammar lesson from Arneb or Mactep will follow.


[Pssst!]Say it was a joke about him being high and mighty or something![/Pssst!]
A-nis bidh fios aig daoine nuair a tha mi a 'mionnachadh aig dhaibh.
User avatar
Lianachan
Enlightened One
Enlightened One
Tits and Nazis though.... Worth investigating
 
Posts: 8742
Joined: Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:12 pm
Location: A' Ghàidhealtachd, Alba

Re: On this day in history...

Postby Heid the Ba » Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:57 pm

Yes, that is it, that is exactly what I meant.
Get it up ye.
User avatar
Heid the Ba
Enlightened One
Enlightened One
Tree hugging, veggie, sandal wearing, pinko Euroweasel
Mr. Sexy Ass
 
Posts: 107530
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:20 pm
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

Re: On this day in history...

Postby Мастер » Wed Jun 03, 2015 1:03 pm

Heid the Ba' wrote:Arse, on looking the chap up to find a link to his deeds I found that I had missed an "e" off the end. So Alte Fritz. No doubt another grammar lesson from Arneb or Mactep will follow.


If you insist!

I think you want to go with "Der Alte Fritz". Adjective endings are different, depending on whether they are preceded by the definite article, the indefinite article, or no article. (Nice, eh?). If you don't want to include the "Der" (and I think you should include it), then you need "Alter Fritz". If there are several and this is one of them, then it would be "Ein alter Fritz". These are all nominative masculine endings.
They call me Mr Celsius!
User avatar
Мастер
Moderator
Moderator
Злой Мудак
Mauerspecht
 
Posts: 23929
Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:56 pm
Location: Far from Damascus

Re: On this day in history...

Postby Arneb » Wed Jun 03, 2015 1:48 pm

I consider the grammar lesson complete :D . Anyhow, taking a German word into English is so full of pitfalls that people doing it should be cut a lot of slack. If you insist on the correct endings for the nominative
depending on the type of article, the next question would be if declension should be correctly transferred. "Der Alte Fritz abolished...", "torture was abolished by dem Alten Fritz", "we should applaud den Alten Fritz" for what he did, etc. However, "Alt Fritz" is always wrong, so :twisted:
Non sunt multiplicanda entia praeter necessitatem
User avatar
Arneb
Moderator
Moderator
German Medical Dude
God of All Things IT
 
Posts: 70001
Joined: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:22 pm
Location: Potsdam, Germany

Re: On this day in history...

Postby Heid the Ba » Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:23 pm

And I thought this was easier than trying to spell "Grosse" or using the big "s" thing. :oops:

If only it had an ümläüt! Fucking fuck, spellcheck auto-correct the umlauts off that, I had to redo it.
Get it up ye.
User avatar
Heid the Ba
Enlightened One
Enlightened One
Tree hugging, veggie, sandal wearing, pinko Euroweasel
Mr. Sexy Ass
 
Posts: 107530
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:20 pm
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

Re: On this day in history...

Postby Lianachan » Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:32 pm

A bheil duine sam bith ann an-seo a bruidhinidh Gàidhlig? Or have I got a free rein, there?
A-nis bidh fios aig daoine nuair a tha mi a 'mionnachadh aig dhaibh.
User avatar
Lianachan
Enlightened One
Enlightened One
Tits and Nazis though.... Worth investigating
 
Posts: 8742
Joined: Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:12 pm
Location: A' Ghàidhealtachd, Alba

Re: On this day in history...

Postby Мастер » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:03 pm

Arneb wrote:I consider the grammar lesson complete :D . Anyhow, taking a German word into English is so full of pitfalls that people doing it should be cut a lot of slack. If you insist on the correct endings for the nominative
depending on the type of article, the next question would be if declension should be correctly transferred. "Der Alte Fritz abolished...", "torture was abolished by dem Alten Fritz", "we should applaud den Alten Fritz" for what he did, etc. However, "Alt Fritz" is always wrong, so :twisted:


I think I've mentioned this before, but . . . for non-native speakers, getting the gender of the noun right is often an issue. Most of the time, I can guess the feminine ones correctly, but masculine/neuter is more difficult. One way to deal with this is to try to structure the sentence so the noun of unknown gender is in the Dativ case - that way, it is dem/dem, instead of der/das or den/das :mrgreen:
They call me Mr Celsius!
User avatar
Мастер
Moderator
Moderator
Злой Мудак
Mauerspecht
 
Posts: 23929
Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:56 pm
Location: Far from Damascus

Re: On this day in history...

Postby Мастер » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:06 pm

Heid the Ba' wrote:And I thought this was easier than trying to spell "Grosse" or using the big "s" thing. :oops:


On an Apple computer, US-english keyboard, try option-s. (Not sure if it is the same on a UK-english keyboard.)

On the UK-english soft keyboard on my iPad, I do not see an easy way to do it. But, it is easy to install a German soft keyboard, and switch languages using the big globe thingy.
They call me Mr Celsius!
User avatar
Мастер
Moderator
Moderator
Злой Мудак
Mauerspecht
 
Posts: 23929
Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:56 pm
Location: Far from Damascus

Re: On this day in history...

Postby Мастер » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:06 pm

Lianachan wrote:A bheil duine sam bith ann an-seo a bruidhinidh Gàidhlig? Or have I got a free rein, there?


I don't notice any errors :shock:
They call me Mr Celsius!
User avatar
Мастер
Moderator
Moderator
Злой Мудак
Mauerspecht
 
Posts: 23929
Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:56 pm
Location: Far from Damascus

Re: On this day in history...

Postby Heid the Ba » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:10 pm

Мастер wrote:
Lianachan wrote:A bheil duine sam bith ann an-seo a bruidhinidh Gàidhlig? Or have I got a free rein, there?


I don't notice any errors :shock:

It looks fine to me as well.
Get it up ye.
User avatar
Heid the Ba
Enlightened One
Enlightened One
Tree hugging, veggie, sandal wearing, pinko Euroweasel
Mr. Sexy Ass
 
Posts: 107530
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:20 pm
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

Re: On this day in history...

Postby Arneb » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:13 pm

Same here. And I don't even have clue how this is pronounced.

I once read an interview with the Irish Prime Minister in Der Spiegel magazine. The interviewers adressed him as Taoiseach. I thought, uuh how is this pronounced, probably something tah-oh-EE-see-ach (ch as in Loch). I was shocked to read on and have them explain to me that it pronounces ti-SHOCK. I knew these Gaelic langugages would be more than I could chew...
Non sunt multiplicanda entia praeter necessitatem
User avatar
Arneb
Moderator
Moderator
German Medical Dude
God of All Things IT
 
Posts: 70001
Joined: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:22 pm
Location: Potsdam, Germany

Re: On this day in history...

Postby Heid the Ba » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:14 pm

Alt 0223 would appear to generate ß.

Of course in other circumstances it should be "Der Alte 0223", "dem Alten 0223", or even "den Alten 0223". :D
Get it up ye.
User avatar
Heid the Ba
Enlightened One
Enlightened One
Tree hugging, veggie, sandal wearing, pinko Euroweasel
Mr. Sexy Ass
 
Posts: 107530
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:20 pm
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

Re: On this day in history...

Postby Мастер » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:16 pm

Arneb wrote:I once read an interview with the Irish Prime Minister in Der Spiegel magazine. The interviewers adressed him as Taoiseach. I thought, uuh how is this pronounced, probably something tah-oh-EE-see-ach (ch as in Loch). I was shocked to read on and have them explain to me that it pronounces ti-SHOCK. I knew these Gaelic langugages would be more than I could chew...


That one I actually know. And the parliament seems to be a "doll". Why they use these terms when speaking English is not so clear to me.
They call me Mr Celsius!
User avatar
Мастер
Moderator
Moderator
Злой Мудак
Mauerspecht
 
Posts: 23929
Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:56 pm
Location: Far from Damascus

Re: On this day in history...

Postby Heid the Ba » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:22 pm

For the same reason signs in Catalan are phrased differently from Castillian: to accentuate the difference.
Get it up ye.
User avatar
Heid the Ba
Enlightened One
Enlightened One
Tree hugging, veggie, sandal wearing, pinko Euroweasel
Mr. Sexy Ass
 
Posts: 107530
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:20 pm
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

Re: On this day in history...

Postby Lianachan » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:44 pm

Irish is a bit different from Gaelic, but I'm 99% sure Taoiseach should be pronounced tee-shach (tiːʃəx for the cunning linguists among us), most definitely with the ch from "loch" at the end. Again, I don't do Irish, but an "ack" or "ock" sound at the end of a word would tend to suggest the diminutive ~(e)ag, although that's feminine (masculine is an) so not sure if it would apply in that case. It's more likely that the guy who advised on pronunciation is wrong, or indeed that Irish is more different from Gaelic than I think. They don't, after all, call it Erse for nothing.
A-nis bidh fios aig daoine nuair a tha mi a 'mionnachadh aig dhaibh.
User avatar
Lianachan
Enlightened One
Enlightened One
Tits and Nazis though.... Worth investigating
 
Posts: 8742
Joined: Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:12 pm
Location: A' Ghàidhealtachd, Alba

Re: On this day in history...

Postby Heid the Ba » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:55 pm

[old joke] I went on a refresher course on the language, it was called "Brush up your Erse". [/old joke]
Get it up ye.
User avatar
Heid the Ba
Enlightened One
Enlightened One
Tree hugging, veggie, sandal wearing, pinko Euroweasel
Mr. Sexy Ass
 
Posts: 107530
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:20 pm
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

PreviousNext

Return to Baba O'Riley

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 101 guests

cron