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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Arneb » Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:45 pm

I think we'll leave that as today's only entry.
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Arneb » Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:02 pm

19 October, 1918 - Large territorial gains for the Allied forces, notably at courtrai and Denain.
Haig makes a case for accepting a conditional surrender, because he sees what Ludendorff sees: That Germany might recover and gain strength in winter.

For today, only a dose of terrorism
1978 - Hanns Martin Schleyer, the President of the German Employers Association, is found murdered in a cart trunk near Mulhouse, Alsace, France. He had been abducted, and all his personnel gunned down, on Sep 5. The German government refused to give in to demands. The killing follows on the heels of the liberation, in Mogadishu, of a German plane abducted en route from Majorca, and the collective suicide of three German top terrorists in their prison cells.
1984 - three Polish secret policemen abduct and kill a prominent Polish priest Jerzy Popiełuszko.
1994 - 21 Israelis and a Dutchman die in bus bombing on Dizengoff rd., Jerusalem
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Heid the Ba » Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:34 pm

A remarkably shitty day historically.
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Lianachan » Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:17 pm

Indeed. Some better things though:

1453 - Hundred Years War ends with French recapture of Bordeaux.
1466 - Thirteen Years War ends.
1900 - Max Planck discovers black-body radiation.
1943 - First antibiotic remedy for tuberculosis is isolated by researchers at Rutgers University.
Every Year - puppies and kittens are born.
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Arneb » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:55 pm

And now for something completely insignificant: On a sunny and calm late autunn morning on 22 Oct 1968, a young judge in a courtroom of the Court on Social Affairs received a hand-written note handed to him by an elderly clerk, reading, Congratulations. A healthy boy. At the same time in the Klinikum Neukölln delivery room, a not-too young mother and her baby were recovering from a somewhat iffy suction-aided delivery.

It all meant nothing to history, but everything to two people among (at the time) 4 billion humans.
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Lance » Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:25 am

Arneb wrote:And now for something completely insignificant: On a sunny and calm late autunn morning on 22 Oct 1968, a young judge in a courtroom of the Court on Social Affairs received a hand-written note handed to him by an elderly clerk, reading, Congratulations. A healthy boy. At the same time in the Klinikum Neukölln delivery room, a not-too young mother and her baby were recovering from a somewhat iffy suction-aided delivery.

It all meant nothing to history, but everything to two people among (at the time) 4 billion humans.

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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Heid the Ba » Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:59 am

And lo! A saviour was born unto Germany, and the two parts would re-unite a mere twenty-ish years later . . .
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Heid the Ba » Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:34 pm

Oh, and congratulations. Pack the bairns off to their grandparents and crack open a bottle!
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Heid the Ba » Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:59 am

On 24th October 1918, the first anniversary of the crushing defeat of the Italian Army at Caporetto, the Allied Army in Italy began the Battle of Vittorio Veneto which would drive the Austro-Hungarian Empire out of the war. The vast majority of troops involved were Italian but much of the heavy lifting was done by the three British divisions who viewed the A-H Army as a soft touch and not anywhere near as good as the Germans. The Allies also included a Czech division formed from prisoners and deserters from the A-H Army who were fighting to break up the Empire, which by this point was riven with dissent and populist movements seeking independence for the regions.
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Arneb » Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:07 am

Hey, now I know I can safely go on holiday... :D
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Heid the Ba » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:19 pm

As a break from the Great War:

26th October 1775 – King George III of Great Britain goes before Parliament to declare the American colonies in rebellion, and authorizes a military response to quell the American Revolution.

That should put a swift stop to that nonsense.
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Arneb » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:45 am

Back from holiday...

28 October, 1918 - BEF parades through Lille. But there is still back-and-fro on the Western front, with Mont Houy taken by 51st BEF division, and later taken back by 3 German divisions.
Czechoslovakia becomes independent of the Habsburg monarchy
There is a last, ignominious, U boat deployment. UB 16 wants to destroy the Navey Flagship, Queen Elizabeth, purproted to lie at Scapa Flow. She isn't there, and UB 16 is sunk unceremoniously by an electrically ignited minefield.

392 - Battle of the Milvian Bridge, Constantive uinites the Western Roman Empire. You, know, in hoc signo vince, and all that stuff.
1776 - Battle of White Plains, where the good, hard-working white Protestants serving to keep His Majesty the King in possession of his rightful property beat evil renegade hard-working white Protestants under common criminal insurgent George Washington, but fail to make minced meat of their beaten rivals. You know, they should have, and today Her Majesty would still be the Rightful Master of Her Western Colonies, and nobody would say shit like aluminum, color, or restroom.
1908 - Back when newspapers were still important, our own version of Donald Trump, Wílhelm II, makes a splash at home with a pseudo-interview published in and authgorized for the Daily Telegraph.
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Arneb » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:18 am

29 October, 1918 - The Austrian-Hungarian Army raises the White Flag in the Alps
Yugoslavia declares independence
Emperor Karl seeks a ceasefire from General Diaz, the Italian Army Chief
Hidenburg is sent a telegram that says, basically, that the Austro-Hungarian Empire is folding.

1923 - Turkish Republic founded
1976 - Erich Hocnecker grabs another post, even if it is only the President of the State Council, a kind of primus iter pares of a collective State Presidency
2006 - Lula is elected President of Brasil. I get the feeling everyone will long back to those days very, very soon.
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Arneb » Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:49 am

30 October, 1918 - Osmanic Empire signs a cease-fire.
A mutiny in the German North Sea fleet is imminent.

Technological stuff for today:
1961 - The biggest ever man-made Boom on Earth, the Tsar Bomba goes off on Navaya Zemlya in the Arctic ocean, converting energy to the tune of 100 million metric tons of TNT, ca. 8,000 Hirshima bombs worth.
1990 - The Rot from Brussels finally seeps into the Sacred Isles of Her Majesty's Kingdom of Great Britain and Norn Iron, when the tunnel borers from both sides join for the first time.
2008 - Last day of operations of Tempelhof airfield in Berlin. I tis not just the closure of any airport, it is the closure of the airport that supported the Berlin Airlift. Fittingly, the last two planes to land are a Ju-52 ("Auntie Ju"), and an original DC-3 "raisin bomber" that flew during the airlift.
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Heid the Ba » Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:18 am

Nice touch with the Ju 52 and Dakota.

The Ottoman surrender was signed on the battleship HMS Agememnon, yes, of the forty or so battleships available they chose the one named after the Greek commander of the Trojan War, and yes that is the site of Troy you can see over there in the Dardanelles . . .
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Arneb » Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:47 pm

Yeah, nice touch. Humiliating the vanquished enemy is the new thing, we aren't a bit surprised to learn...
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Arneb » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:11 am

2 November, 1918 - Armistice talks between Italy and Austria, with Italian divisions advancing in the Adige valley. Mutiny in Kiel; the city's governor orders fire on the protesters, but his orders are refused.

Bit of Cold War history for today:
1945 - The Allied Kontrollratsgesetz (Allied Control Council law) no. 4 re-introduces the German judidiary in the form it had before 1933. Former NSDAP party members are excluded from positions as judges and prosecutors, but that didn't last long.
1950 - U.S. troops engage Chinese troops at the border between Korea and China.
1964 - For the first time after the building of the Wall, East German pensioners are allowed to visit their familes in West Berlin by way of a one-off permit-of-passage agreement, Passierscheinregelung
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Heid the Ba » Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:04 am

Arneb wrote:2 November, 1918 - Armistice talks between Italy and Austria, with Italian divisions advancing in the Adige valley.

The Sud-Tirol then, the Alto Adige now. We stayed in a hotel up that way where the owners had old photos displayed including their relatives in the Great War. These were much admired by Italian tourists who didn't think that perhaps the families of Herr und Frau Fuchs, owners of Gasthaus Fuchs might not have been fighting for La Patria.

Bit of Cold War history for today:
1950 - U.S. troops engage Chinese troops at the border between Korea and China.

That is one way of phrasing it. The US advanced to the Yalu River, ignored all the evidence that the Chinese would attack, ignored the Korean liaison who pointed out that the language being spoken by the troops probing the defences at night was Chinese not Korean and failed to spot several hundred Chinese soldiers infiltrating round them. When the axe fell a number of US units were all but wiped out, including the 8th Cavalry.
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Arneb » Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:21 am

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Arneb wrote:2 November, 1918 - Armistice talks between Italy and Austria, with Italian divisions advancing in the Adige valley.

The Sud-Tirol then, the Alto Adige now. We stayed in a hotel up that way where the owners had old photos displayed including their relatives in the Great War. These were much admired by Italian tourists who didn't think that perhaps the families of Herr und Frau Fuchs, owners of Gasthaus Fuchs might not have been fighting for La Patria.

OTOH, if the worst we have to endure in things concerning Südtirol/Alto Adige is somewhere between irony and farce, we are really bloody well-off aren't we?

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Arneb wrote:Bit of Cold War history for today:
1950 - U.S. troops engage Chinese troops at the border between Korea and China.

That is one way of phrasing it. The US advanced to the Yalu River, ignored all the evidence that the Chinese would attack, ignored the Korean liaison who pointed out that the language being spoken by the troops probing the defences at night was Chinese not Korean and failed to spot several hundred Chinese soldiers infiltrating round them. When the axe fell a number of US units were all but wiped out, including the 8th Cavalry.

I was trying to be discreet. O:)
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Heid the Ba » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:10 pm

Arneb wrote:OTOH, if the worst we have to endure in things concerning Südtirol/Alto Adige is somewhere between irony and farce, we are really bloody well-off aren't we?

Yes indeed.

I was trying to be discreet. O:)

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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Arneb » Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:30 am

3 November 1918 - Austrian-Hungarian Armistice signed.
French troops in Gent
The Allieds agree to give Germany an armistice, too
In Kiel, the seamen uprising costs 9 lives.

A few election results today (a bit U.S. heavy):
Ulysses S. Grant wins against Horatio Seymour, 1868
First re-election of Franklin D. Rossevelt, against Alf Landon, 1936
Lyndon B. Johnson against Barry Goldwater, 1968
Salvador Allende in Chile, 1970
William J. Clinton against George H. W. Bush and Ross Perot, 1992
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Heid the Ba » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:31 am

Arneb wrote:3 November 1918 - Austrian-Hungarian Armistice signed.

As my maternal grandfather was in Italy with the 23rd Division this was the day the war effectively ended for him. Drinks all round!
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Arneb » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:01 am

4 November, 1918 - The Kiel uprising spreads to other Baltic and North Sea cities: Lübeck, Travemünde, leter Hamburg, Cuxhaven, Bremen, Wilhelmshaven.

In one of the last thrusts of the BEF in France, the Battle of the Sambre, Lieutenant Wilfred Owen is killed by MG fire at age 25.

Move him into the sun—
Gently its touch awoke him once,
At home, whispering of fields half-sown.
Always it woke him, even in France,
Until this morning and this snow.
If anything might rouse him now
The kind old sun will know.

Think how it wakes the seeds—
Woke once the clays of a cold star.
Are limbs, so dear-achieved, are sides
Full-nerved, still warm, too hard to stir?
Was it for this the clay grew tall?
—O what made fatuous sunbeams toil
To break earth's sleep at all?


It moves me to tears even now. Was it for this the clay grew tall? Was it indeed?

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I've been in the choir for this song. It was 1989, and we were commemorating the 50th anniversary of the beginning of WWII. The performance was in mid-November and the final rehearsal took place in front of two thousand GDR citizens who had been given free tickets. It means a lot to me.
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Heid the Ba » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:22 am

Arneb wrote:4 November, 1918 - In one of the last thrusts of the BEF in France, the Battle of the Sambre, Lieutenant Wilfred Owen is killed by MG fire at age 25.

If anyone is wondering why the Allies were still launching major attacks it is because there was no guarantee there would be an armistice, and if there were, that it would hold. This offensive was to clear the Germans from the Sambre Canal, a major waterway. Had there been a return to fighting after the armistice then it meant the BEF was already over the canal and wouldn't have had to assault it. Most of the attacks from late October onwards were for those reasons. On the morning of the 11th there were still units advancing to seize bridges etc. just in case.
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Re: On this day in history...

Postby Arneb » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:36 am

...and on Nov. 5, they were busy cleaning out resistance in the terrritory taken on the 4th.
Siede Note: A British arircraft carrier, the Campania, sinks after dcolliding with battleship HMS Revenge, in the Firth of Forth. This time, it wasn't our fault!

Election season in the U.S., you may have heard these names before:
1940 - Franklin Delano Roosevelt beats Wendell Willkie
1968 - Richard Nixon beats Hubert Humphrey by a hair (.7 %)
1996 - William Jefferson Clinton beats Bob Dole.
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