Lance wrote:Bill_Thompson wrote:Then give any other example.
With this persistance that you are right, surely a tangable real-life example will be easy for you to present.
Are you seriously claiming that you don't understand the definition of the word "new" as given in the dictionary?
Oh my FSM!
Okay, how about 2-ply toilet paper over 1-ply toilet paper?
When originally introduced it would have been a new product, "2 Ply Toilet Paper", but it also would have been an improvement to "1 Ply Toilet Paper".
It's NEW!
It's IMPROVED!
It's TWO!
It's TWO!
It's TWO PLY TOILET PAPER!
<Sorry, I really have a hard time taking this seriously.>
No, it is not, Lance. That doesn't work either. And notice that you are trying a different angle without admitting your first example was flawed.
You are continue to run without acknowleding you stumbled.
But here is why this example is not right either. You are still merging two different concepts into one. Either you are talking about toilet paper (which is improved by making it two ply) or you are deciding to consider the fact that two ply toilet paper is a new item.
If you consider two ply to be a new item, then you cannot call it improved.
if you consider the toilet paper to be improved than you cannot call it new.