I just feel like crap

[KLA2]

How you doing, Big Guy? {You know every one here wants to know} :)

[Enzo]

I'm doing taxes, that's how I feel.


I got a letter from the doctor that my CAT scan was normal. That is both a relief and a disappointment. I don;t have a giant tumor, but I also have no added insight into the headaches and other symptoms.

Of course the pain in the ass, we figured out. She's on the couch.

[wring]

Of course the pain in the ass, we figured out. She's on the couch.

And you wonder why your face is on so many things.

[KLA2]

I got a letter from the doctor that my CAT scan was normal. That is both a relief and a disappointment. I don;t have a giant tumor, but I also have no added insight into the headaches and other symptoms.

Any update? If I'm prying, tell me to F off.

But, you posted first, and you know, folks here want to know. :wink:

[Enzo]

AH I have to go back and blah blah blah with them some more.

[tubeswell]

AH I have to go back and blah blah blah with them some more.

Well that's how they worm their way into ya wallet of course. I have avoided misery trips to doctors and dentists lately by being too poor. (Not saying it'll work for everyone)

[Enzo]

I hear ya.

I have gotten in their clutches before - still angry at the wife over one episode. But right now it is a matter of getting someone to listen and actually deal with the complaints. Especially hard if the doctor changes, you have to start all over for each one. "Oh you probably need..." "Oh you probably have..." "Oh, we just need to test..."



Doc, all my joints and muscles hurt all the time. "Oh you probably have the gout, see, your uric is elevated."

Yeah sure, every doctor says that, puts me on allopurinol and a year later my uric is down, but all my joints and muscles still hurt all the time.

Doc, I have a headache in the same place on the top of my head that is always there. "Oh take some Tylenol and get a CAT scan."

CAT scan normal, and Tylenol does nothing beyond rot your liver anyway.

[St. Jimmy]

Well the spot that hurts is obviously where the unscanable tracking chip the aliens installed is.

[Enzo]

The constant anal probing...

[Blue Monster 65]

Aliens had nothing to do with that chip ...

Muhahahahahahahahahahahaha! My Enzo cyborg is almost complete!

[Heid the Ba]

Doc, I have a headache in the same place on the top of my head that is always there.

have you tried wearing a bigger hat?

[Arneb]

I hear ya.

I have gotten in their clutches before - still angry at the wife over one episode. But right now it is a matter of getting someone to listen and actually deal with the complaints. Especially hard if the doctor changes, you have to start all over for each one. "Oh you probably need..." "Oh you probably have..." "Oh, we just need to test..."



Doc, all my joints and muscles hurt all the time. "Oh you probably have the gout, see, your uric is elevated."

Yeah sure, every doctor says that, puts me on allopurinol and a year later my uric is down, but all my joints and muscles still hurt all the time.

Doc, I have a headache in the same place on the top of my head that is always there. "Oh take some Tylenol and get a CAT scan."

CAT scan normal, and Tylenol does nothing beyond rot your liver anyway.

I know exactly what you're talking about, and OMG, it makes me whince!

[KLA2]

Doc, I have a headache in the same place on the top of my head that is always there.

have you tried wearing a bigger hat?

{Ahem} Sorry, Enzo.

Um, believe it or not, try Googling your symptoms and see what you find. If you find answers your doctors have not, challenge them with it. (They hate that).

If they dismiss your research out of hand, consider pursuing treatment elsewhere. I am confident you would not easily get sucked in by outright loony or exploitive stuff.

Some systemic diseases like Lupus were ignored by doctors a few decades ago, but are now recognized. (Cured, sadly, not.)

[Arneb]

I must say that I am whincing even more, but for different reasons.

Maybe we just don't deserve better.

[KLA2]

I must say that I am whincing even more, but for different reasons.

Maybe we just don't deserve better.

Arneb, I did not mean that as a cheap shot.

Doctors perform wonders every day and become enormously more skilled every decade.

Consequently, ever more, probably too much, is expected of them,

However, many are limited by their training, rules of conduct, and insurance companies.

Just my opinion, of course.

Still, what I said. If a person is not happy with the results their doctors are achieving, it is a good idea for that person to do their own research. Challenge their doctors with the findings.

But be very wary of exploitive charlatans, loonies and downright dangerous nostrums. There are plenty.

If you come across something unconventional, ask yourself

1) can I easily afford it?

2) can it do any harm?

If the answer is 1) yes and 2) no, run it past your doctors, then try it. Why not?

Just maintain common sense and good judgment at all times. 8)

[Enzo]

For a long time I wore a wonderful red Detroit Redwings cap. I am a fan of neither Detroit, nor hockey, but the hat was hanging in the gas station for $1, it was corduroy cotton fabric, sturdy looking. Well I saw it in the window and I just HAD to have it. It neither cured nor caused headaches as far as I could tell. It wore out.

The wife got me a nice "Iron Chef" hat. Kind of a shiny fake silk or something. Great hat. I don;t know that the kanji characters on the front REALLY said Iron Chef, I asked some people who appeared to be oriental, but it could say "I am round-eye asshole" for all I cared. Nice hat, but no help.

You can only launder hats so many times, and Iron Chef fell apart.

Then there was the "Fly SUX" hat. SUX being the airport code for Sioux City Iowa. I wore that a lot.

Then not too long ago, one of the guys in Rare Earth, the rock band, gave me one of their hats. Still wearing it.


I dunno, none of these hats seem to help.


Maybe if I line them with copper and magnets and eat lots of herbs....

And I bet Human Growth Hormone wants a shot at my wallet, but I don;t think I need to grow any.

perhaps I could find a shaman who specializes in shrinking heads...


Not to worry, KLA2, I am not easily swayed by whacko alternative medicine guys.


Although I did try some Michigan cherry juice concentrate. Michigan is a big Cherry producing state, and the dried tart cherries are like raisins, but sorta spicier. Very tasty. Claims were made by folk-medicine enthusiasts that tart cherry juice was "good for" aching joints. They even have done research on this at the MSU medical school here locally, and found some positive correlations.... You can buy this stuff in the grocery store, I think I bought some at a cider mill. They babble about anti-oxidants and other stuff, but I figured, what the hell, a few bucks for some fruit concentrate. If it helps at all, great, and if not..., well at the very worst, I am drinking fruit juice.

I have to say, it does seem to offer some relief. And promptly, not one of those 6 months later and how do you feel deals. It is not the answer to the problem, but it seems to work as well as mouth fulls of aspirin.

[Arneb]

No offence, neither taken nor intended.

I whinced the first time because I know we Drs. are often bad at listening to our patients, and Enzo's dialogue was so vivid and realistic that it made me whince with shame.

The second time I whinced was when the subject of the internet educated expert patient comes up. These conversations are often very stressful, because instead of telling me what they experience these patients tell me what they think their Google search told them they have and why every Dr. who didn't see the solution right away, me probably included if I dare interect, is little more than a greedy, callous, socially inept quack who ought to be reported to the authorities.

[Мастер]

and why every Dr. who didn't see the solution right away, me probably included if I dare interect, is little more than a greedy, callous, socially inept quack who ought to be reported to the authorities.

Unfortunately too long for a rank title . . . :P

[Lance]

and why every Dr. who didn't see the solution right away, me probably included if I dare interect, is little more than a greedy, callous, socially inept quack who ought to be reported to the authorities.

Unfortunately too long for a rank title . . . :P

Couldn't we just use:

Greedy, callous, socially inept quack who ought to be reported to the authorities

[Arneb]

I thought you would get the idea...

[KLA2]

and why every Dr. who didn't see the solution right away, me probably included if I dare interect, is little more than a greedy, callous, socially inept quack who ought to be reported to the authorities.

Unfortunately too long for a rank title . . . :P

You could abbreviate it to GCSIQ.

We would all know what that meant ...

Always here for you, Arneb ...

ETA: If anyone asks you, Arneb, just tell them the "S" stands for "sexy", and figure the rest out. :wink:

[Enzo]

I don't know about the rest of the world, but on TV in the USA we are constantly barraged by ads for prescription drugs for various things. Mostly drugs for male potency, cholesterol, etc. The inevitable punch line for each is "Ask your doctor if Mycoxafloppin is right for you..."

One visit to my doctor a while back I took a few sheets of paper with me and said, "Doc, I heard about some medications on TV and I made a list..." reaching for my papers, she said, "You DIDN'T??!!??!" HAr. I had made no list, but I got her on it. I am sure she faced the questions for real far too often.

[Arneb]

this time, my compassion goes to the esteemed colleague...:D

[tubeswell]

Hi Enzo

please kindly direct yourself to this thread.

http://www.illuminati-r-us.com/Forums/v ... php?t=5775

TIA

[tubeswell]

Hi wring,

Any word on Enzo today?