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The Boxer

Postby KLA2 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:50 am

I was watching YouTube videos tonight. Sixties groups. Too many to name, all awesome. Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel, the reunion in Central Park, decades later. These guys would have to work hard to produce a bad song, and even at that, would probably fail.

The Boxer. Great, amoung so many great works of art.

This concert was the first time in years this legendary duo had performed together. If you know their history, watch this from about 2:20 on. (Better still, watch the whole thing.)

As they sing the lines “After changes after changes, we are more the less the same …”, Paul casts a sheepish look at Art, hangs his head, and then fights to control his emotions, his face a frozen mask. Art catches this out of the corner of his eye, and without missing a beat, comforts Paul with a pat on the back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2DglHU0 ... re=related

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Damn moving.
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Postby Arneb » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:41 am

A pal at school gave me a cassette with that concert, I must have listened to it literally thousands of times. I don't usually listen to pop music, and that awesome concert is probably the single largst exception. Very important to me.
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Postby KLA2 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:04 am

Such a brilliant piece of writing by Paul Simon.

You never cease to impress me, Arneb.

I have often quoted those lines,

“In the clearing stands a boxer, and a fighter by his trade
And he carries the reminders
Of every glove that laid him down, or cut him
Till he cried out in his anger and his shame
I am leaving, I am leaving,
But the fighter still remains …”

to friends and clients over the years. If these words never apply to you (all), you are lucky indeed. For the rest, words to live (another day) by.
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Postby Мастер » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:04 am

KLA2 wrote:Such a brilliant piece of writing by Paul Simon.

You never cease to impress me, Arneb.

I have often quoted those lines,

“In the clearing stands a boxer, and a fighter by his trade
And he carries the reminders
Of every glove that laid him down, or cut him
Till he cried out in his anger and his shame
I am leaving, I am leaving,
But the fighter still remains …”

to friends and clients over the years. If these words never apply to you (all), you are lucky indeed. For the rest, words to live (another day) by.


I do not have the recording you have cited, but I do have the original from a "greatest hits" type of album. Well, CD, actually - do we still call those albums?
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Postby KLA2 » Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:42 am

Mactep, I do not understand what you mean by "the recording you have cited", but the original you have should contain those lines, as does the version linked to here, and numerous recordings over the years available on YouTube.

I think CD's are called CD's.

Sorry, Mactep, I do not mean to sound sarcastic ... I am just not following you here. :oops:

ETA: Those lines I quoted are from "The Boxer", linked to above.
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Postby Мастер » Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:50 am

KLA2 wrote:Mactep, I do not understand what you mean by "the recording you have cited",


The YouTube link.

KLA2 wrote:but the original you have should contain those lines


It does :P

KLA2 wrote:as does the version linked to here


That's "the recording you have cited" :P
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Postby KLA2 » Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:11 am

So ... we're good? Do you have any comments on the OP? Anyone? (other than Arneb ... thanks.)
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Postby Мастер » Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:44 am

KLA2 wrote:So ... we're good?


Um, I guess. I'm a little confused as to why there would be an absence of goodness :?

KLA2 wrote:Do you have any comments on the OP?


No, apart from the ones in my earlier post, none :?
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Postby Arneb » Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:07 pm

I like to still call them albums. But then I am hopelessly day-before-yesterday... Hey, I post inforums. 'Nuff said.

Oddly enough, I listened to some feature of AC/DC and Malcolm Young says there hat they don't just produce songs, they produce albums, as in coherent works that follow a certain common theme or development.

Obviously, there are quite a few things I don't get about AC/DC...[/i]
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Postby Enzo » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:53 am

In my humble view...

The term album pertains to a collection of songs presented together. The old vinyl records were "Long playing albums," or LPs. CDs are albums too, just in different format.

A photo album was a bunch of pictures in a large book. But a bunch of digital photos grouped in Snapfish is also an album.


COntrasting MP3 players. Those usually just contain a large storage of songs without an overarching theme beyond personal taste in music. Hence not an album. However, one could make an MP3 album.
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Postby Lance » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:07 pm

Yeah, what he said.
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Postby Arneb » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:00 pm

I agree with both of you. I was just communicating my amazement that Malcolm Young seemed to see AC/DCs albums more in the line of albums with a common conceptl like, say, The Wall.
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Postby Lianachan » Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:20 am

I remember when you got proper albums, with music that was in the right order, or, at least, in some sort of order, where there was a beginning and an end. I daresay you still get some like that. Most "albums" these days seem to be a mere collection of songs, which you can download individually anyway if you want to, shoved into a bag with neither rhyme nor reason.
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Postby Arneb » Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:46 pm

I suppose that's the way it is nowadays. Thee is some protection from that illness in being a classical music lover. Nobody who really loves it will download single movements or such :glp-yak:
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Postby Enzo » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:49 am

On late night TV there were always ads for compilation CDs with big hits in some genre or another. We heard the ad for "Cool Rock" so many times, I learned it like it was a song. Drives the wife nuts when I just sing the commercial. two or three seconds each of song after song.

"I just died in your arms tonight, I hear the rain down in AAAAfrica, and ther is always something there to remind me..."

Among all the ones of country, blues, rock, slow rock, blues, rap, etc. There was one for Classical Greats or some such. They had an announcer with a Brit accent selling the thing. A sort of faux Alistair Cooke fellow. This amazing record value included something astonishing like the 100 best classical "songs" of all time. They'd roll a screen crawl with all the big names and famous titles.

I am sure it was just quick overtures in each case. But there you go.
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