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Facial Reconstruction

Postby Lianachan » Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:30 pm

I'm amazed at the quality of this:


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I don't know the guy who did the reconstruction, but the archaeologist referred to in the article who's been working with the remains of the Bronze Age woman is a good friend.
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Re: Facial Reconstruction

Postby Arneb » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:27 pm

Outstanding.
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Re: Facial Reconstruction

Postby Lance » Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:18 pm

Wow. That looks TOO real.
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Re: Facial Reconstruction

Postby Arneb » Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:42 pm

Given that she died young, the image is probably a bit flattering as it shows a woman in good health and nourishment. Although acute disease can rip you out of a healthy life unimpeded by handicap and disease on short notice, I wonder if she really did look that gorgeous shortly before her death.
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Re: Facial Reconstruction

Postby Lianachan » Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:25 pm

Arneb wrote:Given that she died young, the image is probably a bit flattering as it shows a woman in good health and nourishment. Although acute disease can rip you out of a healthy life unimpeded by handicap and disease on short notice, I wonder if she really did look that gorgeous shortly before her death.

There's no evidence of disease or injury in the bones, not even in the teeth, although she must have died somehow and we don't have the complete skeleton. Details about the remains here if you're interested. There should be DNA results coming, which will be interesting.

Obviously there's a question of interpretation and artistic license on the details, but I find the image to be quite hypnotic. As an archaeologist, I'm of course really interested in all of this sort of thing, but that picture really seems to give a connection to a young woman, and a society, who lived almost 4,000 years ago, for me.
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Re: Facial Reconstruction

Postby Arneb » Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:06 pm

I Totally agree. This 4,000 yo x-times granny of ours looks as if she could just turn the corner and have some interested looks thrown her way. Or she could open her mouth and ask us, in puzzled voice, why everything looked so different all of a sudden. It's a great work
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Re: Facial Reconstruction

Postby Lance » Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:29 pm

So where was she from? Is it me, or does she look Germanic?
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Re: Facial Reconstruction

Postby Lianachan » Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:39 pm

Lance wrote:So where was she from? Is it me, or does she look Germanic?

The north of Scotland, quite near where I used to live actually.
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Re: Facial Reconstruction

Postby Arneb » Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:41 pm

Venture a guess: Could you understand her speaking?
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Re: Facial Reconstruction

Postby Lianachan » Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:46 pm

Arneb wrote:Venture a guess: Could you understand her speaking?


Her language? No.

Edited for further details: the earliest evidence for the languages of that part of the world are from the names of places, mainly coastal features like promonteries, and river names. Those were first recorded, in Greek, about 300 BC by Pytheas but reached us in Latin. They're well understood though. They indicate a proto-Celtic root, but even then the woman would have been buried for over a thousand years by that point, and we don't know how old those place names were.
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Re: Facial Reconstruction

Postby tubeswell » Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:58 pm

Pretty face. What about the rest of her?
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Re: Facial Reconstruction

Postby Lianachan » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:03 am

Here you go.

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Only the bits in purple, mind.
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Re: Facial Reconstruction

Postby tubeswell » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:32 am

Any evidence of parturition scarring on the pelvic remnant? Or could she have been a virgin?
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Re: Facial Reconstruction

Postby Lianachan » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:37 am

I don't recall that ever being mentioned, one way or another. What I've been wondering is whether any isotope analysis of her teeth has been done, to see where she originally came from. People were pretty mobile in the Bronze Age.
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Re: Facial Reconstruction

Postby tubeswell » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:59 am

Lianachan wrote:I don't recall that ever being mentioned, one way or another.


Is not fecundity by age cohort an important indicator of palaeo lifestyle? or something like that? (from my recollections of studying physical anthropology in the '80s)

Lianachan wrote: What I've been wondering is whether any isotope analysis of her teeth has been done, to see where she originally came from. People were pretty mobile in the Bronze Age.


Did she have a nice full set of even upper chompers?, or did she have a toothy grin?
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Re: Facial Reconstruction

Postby Lance » Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:44 am

Next someone's going to ask if they reconstructed her boobs... (Did they?)
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Re: Facial Reconstruction

Postby Lance » Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:56 am

Okay, here's a very quick attempt.

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Re: Facial Reconstruction

Postby tubeswell » Sat Jul 30, 2016 2:28 am

Lance, you found your niche!
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Re: Facial Reconstruction

Postby Lance » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:12 am

I've done FAR better than that. That one is garbage.
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Re: Facial Reconstruction

Postby tubeswell » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:16 am

Ok then. Prove it.
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Re: Facial Reconstruction

Postby Lance » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:19 am

Here's one I always liked.

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Re: Facial Reconstruction

Postby Enzo » Sat Jul 30, 2016 6:21 am

Quit horsing around. You see the problem there is you have to walk ALL the way around front to kiss her when you are done.

I wonder about the eyes. Is blue eyes a reasonable guess for the time and place?

I used to see the standard image of Jesus Christ, the thin long-haired fellow would have blue eyes. Not very likely considering where he came from. Have we any way of knowing when blue eyes entered the main stream? I know little beyond them being recessive. But they do seem centered in certain areas. Not many blue eyed Chinese or Native Americans or sub-Saharan Africans. Would she reasonable be expected to have them?
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Re: Facial Reconstruction

Postby Lance » Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:44 pm

Here's a slightly better one. I gave her a haircut too.

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Re: Facial Reconstruction

Postby Heid the Ba » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:30 pm

You know some of us check IrU at work, don't you? Fortunately I'm the boss.

I don't think the second image is centaured correctly. I'll get me coat.
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Re: Facial Reconstruction

Postby Lance » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:33 pm

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