Aaaaadolf,...

[Arneb]

A good sould on CQ sent me a link to the video we talked about here.

It's got an English version! So, for an unobstructed listen-in to the Führerbunker, click on the link, got to "Bonker-Video" and then the British flag

[Lance]

Oh jesus! That's some pretty good stuff right here.

Hey Wring, do you have any Adolph Duckies?

[Enzo]

By god, I think you stumped her. Whenever I try to come up with a duck idea, she says they already have them.

[Lance]

[Мастер]

A good sould on CQ sent me a link to the video we talked about here.

It's got an English version! So, for an unobstructed listen-in to the Führerbunker, click on the link, got to "Bonker-Video" and then the British flag

So what are they calling him in the German version? I can't quite make it out. You old Nazi _______?

One of the least appealing fundraisers I've every seen on the right.

Come to think of it, "Nazi" has resisted Anglicisation; I never hear anyone say it with an English "z", always a German "z".

[Мастер]

So what are they calling him in the German version? I can't quite make it out. You old Nazi _______?

I think I have it worked out, the next word is "should".

I was listening for an insult word, like in the English version.

[Arneb]

So what are they calling him in the German version? I can't quite make it out. You old Nazi _______?

I think I have it worked out, the next word is "should".

I was listening for an insult word, like in the English version.

No. The word is Nazisau - sow, not pig. In an Internesting linguistic quirk, it is possible in German to call a man "sow".

[Мастер]

Ah, I see. I had convinced myself it was "soll".

[Lance]

Come to think of it, "Nazi" has resisted Anglicisation; I never hear anyone say it with an English "z", always a German "z".

What's the difference between the English "z" and German "z"?

I've always pronounced it as NOT-zee but if I were seeing it for the first time I would probably think NAH-zee was right.

[wring]

[Мастер]

Come to think of it, "Nazi" has resisted Anglicisation; I never hear anyone say it with an English "z", always a German "z".

What's the difference between the English "z" and German "z"?

I've always pronounced it as NOT-zee but if I were seeing it for the first time I would probably think NAH-zee was right.

A German "z" usually sounds like a "ts", so Natsi. The way I usually hear "Nazi" pronounced in English follows the German custom.

[Lance]

I've always pronounced it as NOT-zee but if I were seeing it for the first time I would probably think NAH-zee was right.

A German "z" usually sounds like a "ts", so Natsi. The way I usually hear "Nazi" pronounced in English follows the German custom.

I guess I could change mine to "NOT-see" instead of "zee", but "NAT"? Not sure I've ever heard it that way other than as part of NAH-zee by someone trying to be pretentious.

[Arneb]

I am with Mactep on this one. The "English" pronounciation of "z" is usually a dead giveaway of their origin for native English speakers learning German (come to think of it, one of many dead giveaways - it's really tough for you folks). And the correct pronounciation of "Nazi" - with "ts" or at least "ds" in the middle is the notable exception.

Mactep, if you want to test further what you figured against the actual lyrics, here they are. "Chantré", if you ask, is a very, very cheap variety of brandy popular with German drinkers who drink for the bang only, and don't care for the taste.

Interestingly, Hitler's manner of speaking is instantly recognizeable. It's almost as if Hitler had his own dialect. It isn't an Austrian accent, which would be what you would expect. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that no-one talked the way Hitler did. Perhaps that is why Charly Chaplin could give a masterful, totally believable impression of Hitler without even speaking German (except the occasional "Schnitzel")

[Lance]

I am with Mactep on this one. The "English" pronounciation of "z" is usually a dead giveaway of their origin for native English speakers learning German (come to think of it, one of many dead giveaways - it's really tough for you folks). And the correct pronounciation of "Nazi" - with "ts" or at least "ds" in the middle is the notable exception.

Yeah, I was agreeing with that part too. It's the part before the "ts" I'm not sure of. To me, it is "NOT", not "NAT".

[Мастер]

I am with Mactep on this one. The "English" pronounciation of "z" is usually a dead giveaway of their origin for native English speakers learning German (come to think of it, one of many dead giveaways - it's really tough for you folks). And the correct pronounciation of "Nazi" - with "ts" or at least "ds" in the middle is the notable exception.

Yeah, I was agreeing with that part too. It's the part before the "ts" I'm not sure of. To me, it is "NOT", not "NAT".

I would say it is more like the "a" sound in "father" than in "cat".

[Мастер]

Mactep, if you want to test further what you figured against the actual lyrics, here they are. "Chantré", if you ask, is a very, very cheap variety of brandy popular with German drinkers who drink for the bang only, and don't care for the taste.

I'll give it a try (the lyrics, not the Chantré), but I'm already contaminated by having listened to the English version. (I've also listened to the French version, but my French comprehension is quite minimal.)

Interestingly, Hitler's manner of speaking is instantly recognizeable. It's almost as if Hitler had his own dialect. It isn't an Austrian accent, which would be what you would expect. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that no-one talked the way Hitler did. Perhaps that is why Charly Chaplin could give a masterful, totally believable impression of Hitler without even speaking German (except the occasional "Schnitzel")

Does the video do a good job of it? His part is awfully funny sounding (in both English and German) to my ear.

[Arneb]

He is good. It is relatively easy to speak in a manner that evokes the "hitlerlect" - it doesn't take much to be recognized. But this is funny, and quite good. An able comedian, that Pigor.

[Lance]

Yeah, I was agreeing with that part too. It's the part before the "ts" I'm not sure of. To me, it is "NOT", not "NAT".

I would say it is more like the "a" sound in "father" than in "cat".

And with that, we have common ground.

[Мастер]

I'm thinking of the Brad Pitt "Aldo the Apache" portrayal - he probably would have used an "a" like in "cat". Did he?

[Lance]

I'm thinking of the Brad Pitt "Aldo the Apache" portrayal - he probably would have used an "a" like in "cat". Did he?

Now that you mention it, I believe so.

[Enzo]

When I was a kid, WW2 was not all that far in the past, so Japs and Nazis were an everyday part of things. When we'd go out and play soldier in the yard, we always had to decide of we were fighting Japs or Nazis, and who had to be which today. "Oh, I had to be Nazis yesterday..."

We had a joke we used to tell:

What did Hitler say when his wife had a baby?

"Hotsy Totsy, another Nazi."

I have always said it NAH-tzee. Or NAHT-zee maybe better. Actually the difference between NATzee and NATsee wouldn't sound much different coming from my mouth.


I have heard a few speakers say it as "Nazzy", but they always impressed me as people who say something wrong as part of their thing. Like people who refer to queers as homo-secksuals, and negroes as nigras.