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Postby Blue Monster 65 » Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:13 pm

Rather interesting and possibly important: http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=29223

And the companion article: http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=29222

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Postby Enzo » Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:53 am

Brown Scientists Announce Finding of Water on the Moon


SO now racism has entered the space program?
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Postby Мастер » Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:42 pm

Enzo wrote:
Brown Scientists Announce Finding of Water on the Moon


SO now racism has entered the space program?


Why, because scientists of other colors were excluded?
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Postby Enzo » Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:59 pm

Well,yeah. That we needed to mention their color at all in this day and age...
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Postby Bill_Thompson » Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:11 am

It matters not if she is joking or if she is serious.
Either way:
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Postby Arneb » Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:04 am

...and there I was wondering, what could BT possibly contribute to a science forum.
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Postby Lance » Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:12 am

Arneb wrote:...and there I was wondering, what could BT possibly contribute to a science forum.

Well, he is an asshole. No one would argue that.

And he is certainly sociopathic. Lacking even the most basic skills for social interaction.

But he's not stupid. He's actually quite intelligent though it doesn't often show.
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Postby Arneb » Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:15 pm

Oh, I was just saying that instead of something sciency and truly interesting, he just produced his usual trolling. I wasn't disputing his intelligence - he does everything to hide any intelligence he has, but you can't really be a successful sociopath without some intelligence. If you get your kicks from hurting other people, you got to be able to figure out where they are most vulnerable. And he isn't bad at changing his angle of attack. Less stereotypic than your average troll, more versatile.

I knew someone at school who was a bit like him, even if he was far less brutal. He was slinker to BT's stinker. Really sensitive guy, and he used everything he could glean from you, everything you would entrust him with, to hurt you.

Reflecting on the guy I often thought it must be fun to be an asshole - so much less pain. But then he ended up flinging himself from a high rise building. So now I think, not being an asshole may just be better for your health than being one.
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Postby Lance » Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:09 pm

I absolutely expect to read about Bill in the paper one day. I don;t know what the context will be but it will be interesting.
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Postby Arneb » Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:14 pm

Oh dear. I remember how one school friend remembered that the guy in question had said his supreme goal would be to make tabloid headline news. It was chilling to see how he succeeded...
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Postby Enzo » Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:54 am

Bill is the sort of guy who, when jumping off a building to kill himself, will make sure to land on top of your car.
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Postby Мастер » Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:54 am

Enzo wrote:Bill is the sort of guy who, when jumping off a building to kill himself, will make sure to land on top of your car.


So that's who that guy was :evil:
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Postby Superluminal » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:24 pm

Arneb wrote:But then he ended up flinging himself from a high rise building.


Did someone help him do the flinging?
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Postby Enzo » Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:40 am

It is always heart warming to see volunteerism.
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Postby Arneb » Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:25 pm

Superluminal wrote:
Arneb wrote:But then he ended up flinging himself from a high rise building.


Did someone help him do the flinging?


No, he did it all by himself. He was such an asshole, he dared leave behind his mother who had just lost her husband to cancer a few months before. I was tempted to say "no big loss", but as Bill always fails to recognize elsewhere, there is such a thing as a basic respect and humility towards loss of human life even if it hits someone you can't stand.
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Postby Superluminal » Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:34 pm

Back to the OP about water. From what I read, the amount of water is only like a gallon or two a ton at the poles and a teaspoon per ton at the equator. I'm afraid that may not be enough to get people excited about going back to the moon. We may have to find another "beat the Russians" way to motivate people.

After all, if JFK, in his famous "go to the moon speech", had said, "Let's go to the moon and look for some really old moon rocks, so we can learn about the origin of the moon and solar system," the speech would have been met with crickets, and Apollo would still be a dream.
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Postby Enzo » Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:13 am

They have crickets on the moon?




Can't hear them chirp though.
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Postby pmcolt » Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:10 pm

The public may not get excited about this information (especially when the water content is something like a couple pints per ton), but when and if we go back to the Moon on a more permanent basis, it will be vital to know where and in what quantities various resources like water are available.

I'm not even sure "Beat the [strike]Russians[/strike] Chinese to the Moon" will motivate the public the way it once did. We've already been to the Moon, and until another "Evil Empire" springs up to compete with us on equal footing, or until the majority of the American people begin to appreciate curiosity and scientific inquiry for its own sake, manned spaceflight is going to continue at the same slow pace we've seen for the past few decades. [/strike]
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Postby Blue Monster 65 » Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:07 am

pmcolt wrote:... until the majority of the American people begin to appreciate curiosity and scientific inquiry for its own sake ...


Good luck with that.

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Postby KLA2 » Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:30 am

Superluminal wrote:Back to the OP about water. From what I read, the amount of water is only like a gallon or two a ton at the poles and a teaspoon per ton at the equator.


Damn. I did not hear that part. Half the water at the equator is probably from Apollo waste dumps. :P

Dosen't sound very useful. Damn.
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Postby Enzo » Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:18 pm

And for that matter, a dam doesn;t sound useful.
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Postby Мастер » Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:54 am

pmcolt wrote:and until another "Evil Empire" springs up to compete with us on equal footing


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Postby Enzo » Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:09 am

We went to the moon 40 years ago, we are Americans, dammit. We hit the golf balls there, but I don't think, speaking of water on the moon, I don't think we did the quintessential American guy thing, we never pissed on it.


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Postby KLA2 » Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:15 am

Enzo wrote:We went to the moon 40 years ago, we are Americans, dammit. We hit the golf balls there, but I don't think, speaking of water on the moon, I don't think we did the quintessential American guy thing, we never pissed on it.

That's one small pee for man, one giant leak for mankind. shake shake zip.


Ahem. See my post ^^^^ up. :wink:

Of course, I am just guessing. Maybe they just "held it" until they got back to earth. :lol:
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Postby Enzo » Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:34 am

You don't understand. It is not about politely leaving something behind. We are not Canadian here, no Americans have a certain imperative. It is about pee-ing one's name in the snow, so to speak. We would need a special "outlet tube" on the space suit for this purpose. It is not about the end result, but more the act of directly pissing on some moon rock.


I remember one day many years ago, I came home and told my room mates, "Hey, I just got a new truck." Mike then says to Harvey, "Let's go pee on it." And they went out and promptly pissed on my tires.


And my wife wonders why I didn't introduce her right away.
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