Shine a light through a fish tank and it bends. Simple refraction, like we've all played with since we were kids. Light changing speed and direction when passing through areas of different density.
Isn't space denser nearer a star than in interstellar space? And nearer a galaxy than in intergalactic space?
So maybe Gravitational Lensing is nothing more than simple refraction due to the distant light passing through areas of different densities.
There!
I have now disproved Einstein and the Theory of Relativity.
I really need my Nobel money quickly though.
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Gravitational Lensing
by Lance » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:04 am
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Re: Gravitational Lensing
by tubeswell » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:45 am
Well I want you to know that if it was up to me, I'd sign across the Nobel prize money to you right away boss.
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Re: Gravitational Lensing
by Lance » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:19 am
Thanks!
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Re: Gravitational Lensing
by Lianachan » Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:46 am
A-nis bidh fios aig daoine nuair a tha mi a 'mionnachadh aig dhaibh.
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Re: Gravitational Lensing
by Heid the Ba » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:01 pm
Well done that man! Cash the cheque before they ask any hard questions though.
Get it up ye.
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Re: Gravitational Lensing
by Lance » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:23 pm
Heid the Ba' wrote:Well done that man! Cash the cheque before they ask any hard questions though.
Please, ask the hard questions. This is my publication and you guys are my peer review.
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Re: Gravitational Lensing
by Enzo » Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:20 am
OK.
1. What is the capital of Nebraska?
2. 42 may be the answer, but show your work.
3. Peer, peer, pumpkin ear.
"Is there a question there, counselor?"
"Withdrawn."
4. If two trains leave New York and Los Angeles at the same time, and both start out at 60 miles per hour, what are the odds either of them will arrive ion Chicago in time to make a connection to anything?
1. What is the capital of Nebraska?
2. 42 may be the answer, but show your work.
3. Peer, peer, pumpkin ear.
"Is there a question there, counselor?"
"Withdrawn."
4. If two trains leave New York and Los Angeles at the same time, and both start out at 60 miles per hour, what are the odds either of them will arrive ion Chicago in time to make a connection to anything?
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Re: Gravitational Lensing
by tubeswell » Fri Jul 08, 2016 8:25 am
More importantly, did they send you the prize money yet?
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Re: Gravitational Lensing
by Lance » Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:35 pm
No.
No one is taking it seriously.
No one is taking it seriously.
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Re: Gravitational Lensing
by tubeswell » Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:57 pm
It defies belief
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Re: Gravitational Lensing
by Arneb » Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:58 pm
Yeah, that's "open-minded" for you.
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Re: Gravitational Lensing
by Lance » Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:33 pm
For what it's worth, the proposition proposed in my OP, before the whole Nobel prize stuff, was serious.
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Re: Gravitational Lensing
by tubeswell » Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:42 pm
You need to get it published in a reputable refutable scholarly journal
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Re: Gravitational Lensing
by Lance » Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:44 pm
Well yeah, it's here...
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Re: Gravitational Lensing
by tubeswell » Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:45 pm
What would the nemesis's on BAUT have to say about that?
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Re: Gravitational Lensing
by Lance » Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:46 pm
Who cares?
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Re: Gravitational Lensing
by tubeswell » Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:52 pm
If scientific enquiry can't call it BS, it remains a mere potentially falsifiable hypothesis, and then you win the money. BAUT is a surefire way to invite the BS probe, is all I'm sayin'.
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Re: Gravitational Lensing
by Lance » Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:03 pm
Okay... I just wanted to get thoughts on it from people here before taking it elsewhere. A sanity check...
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Re: Gravitational Lensing
by tubeswell » Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:17 pm
It seems solid to me. My take on scientific enquiry lately has been totally coloured by cynicism as a result of the 'academic peer scrutiny' of my recent MSc thesis by professors from other competitor universities who only seem interested in acknowledging theories which support or validate their own work, instead of keeping open-minded.
(Edit: which is why we play the bullshit game)
(Edit: which is why we play the bullshit game)
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Re: Gravitational Lensing
by tubeswell » Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:59 am
BTW, I think I used to be on the cosmoquest forum, but I forgot my password. I might have only done 1 (or possibly 2?) posts there ever.
(Edit, I just requested a new password and logged in and saw an unread message from Heid from 1 April 2014)
(Re-edit: I looked up my 1st post there from 2014, and saw that it had been approved by the moderators. So now I have made a further (2nd) post, which is currently pending moderator approval.
re-re-edit - and now a 3rd post 
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(Edit, I just requested a new password and logged in and saw an unread message from Heid from 1 April 2014)
(Re-edit: I looked up my 1st post there from 2014, and saw that it had been approved by the moderators. So now I have made a further (2nd) post, which is currently pending moderator approval.
re-re-edit - and now a 3rd post )A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk, I have a work station.
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Re: Gravitational Lensing
by Lance » Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:47 am
Oh, they have an up your post count thread too?
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Re: Gravitational Lensing
by tubeswell » Sat Jul 09, 2016 2:04 am
The 2nd post was a reply to my first post in the same thread. The third post started a new thread, where I linked to the Bullshit! game thread here. I will see how long it is before I am banned. (Or whether we might have new membership requests?)
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Re: Gravitational Lensing
by Lance » Sat Jul 09, 2016 2:24 am
lol
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Re: Gravitational Lensing
by Lance » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:56 pm
So this touches a little on what I was talking about in this thread:
Controversial ‘Entropic Gravity’ Clears Hurdle on Path to Eliminating Dark Matter
Controversial ‘Entropic Gravity’ Clears Hurdle on Path to Eliminating Dark Matter
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