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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby MM_Dandy » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:34 pm

Heid the Ba wrote:So Twitter will ban him for breaching their terms and conditions?

They've had plenty of opportunity to do so before, but have opted not to. They may change their tune, but I'd be surprised if it happened. Same with congress.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby MM_Dandy » Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:46 pm

Flynn has apparently struck a deal and has pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI. MSNBC is speculating about Kushner and even Pence. I think Kushner is hosed, but I'm not confident that there's much of anything on Pence. Still, it looks like another step has been taken in the right direction. On the other hand, not as much is being made of Trump's talk with and firing of Comey as I would have thought.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Heid the Ba » Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:01 pm

Pence is up to his eyeballs in it, but whether it can be proved is another matter. Good start though.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby MM_Dandy » Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:14 pm

Holy crap! ABC is reporting that Flynn is prepared to testify that Trump ordered him to make contact with Russia!

Edit: I don't if this is really James Comey's twitter feed, but I think he'd agree with the sentiment (plus, damn!)
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Edit: Darn! Other sources (CNN, etc.) are saying that it was Kushner who gave the order.
Oh, and apparently, that really is Comey's Twitter and Instagram feeds.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Lance » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:12 pm

Let them get Pence before Trump, because when they finally do get Trump I don't want Pence replacing him.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby MM_Dandy » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:28 pm

I don't want Pence replacing him, either. If he does vacate first, I wonder who Trump would nominate for a replacement, or if he'd leave it open.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Enzo » Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:12 pm

I think we needs be patient, they build the case from the bottom up. Once we have in place what all the little people did and who they slept with, it makes it a lot harder for POTUS to point his small finger.

Potus of course will lie about it regardless.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Lance » Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:48 pm

If they get Pence and Trump realizes it's only matter of time for himself, I think he'd try to put someone in the V.P. spot who he thinks would burn it down the rest of the way out of spite.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Enzo » Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:53 am

Oh yes, he is totally about scorched earth and burning bridges.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Мастер » Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:59 am

Lance wrote:If they get Pence and Trump realizes it's only matter of time for himself, I think he'd try to put someone in the V.P. spot who he thinks would burn it down the rest of the way out of spite.


How does that one work? Could he pick anyone he wants, or does he need senate approval or anything like that?
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Мастер » Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:25 am

MM_Dandy wrote:Holy crap! ABC is reporting that Flynn is prepared to testify that Trump ordered him to make contact with Russia!


What I'm trying to understand is, is there some actual law that was broken?

So far, I'm seeing things like, lying to the FBI. So I guess the FBI is investigating something, and someone lied during the investigation. However, is there some actual crime going on beyond failure to cooperate with the investigation?
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Halcyon Dayz, FCD » Sat Dec 02, 2017 2:34 pm

Мастер wrote:
Lance wrote:If they get Pence and Trump realizes it's only matter of time for himself, I think he'd try to put someone in the V.P. spot who he thinks would burn it down the rest of the way out of spite.


How does that one work? Could he pick anyone he wants, or does he need senate approval or anything like that?

Senate needs to approve.
That's the same senate that's trying to destroy America right as we speak, though.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Enzo » Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:43 pm

The succession to the presidency is spelled out in the constitution and federal law.

The present order:
Vice President Mike Pence.
Speaker of the House Paul Ryan.
Senate President Pro Tempore Orrin Hatch.
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.
Secretary of the Treasury Steven Mnuchin.
Secretary of Defense James Mattis.
Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

As to actual crimes other than lying during the investigation. There is also lying on your job application, on your security clearance documents, acting as a representative for a foreign government without registering as such.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Lance » Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:46 pm

So if they take Trump and Pence together we get Ryan. I'd be okay with that. Ryan is a pussy but at least I think he's sane.

Private citizens are forbidden from negotiating with foreign governments. One part of the investigation is over negotiations with Russia before the inauguration. There is more but I don't recall at the moment.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Heid the Ba » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:52 am

You have to go a fair way down that list before you get someone I'd want as my president. Pence is a true believer, Ryan is a scumbag, actually I don't know much about Hatch, Tillerson would be ok on the basis he doesn't want the job, Mnuchin is the worst kind of banker, Mattis might be ok but Sessions is a bigoted elf.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Enzo » Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:08 pm

I wish I had such a grasp of Scotland/UK politics.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Arneb » Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:42 pm

Enzo wrote:I wish I had such a grasp of Scotland/UK politics.

As they say in America, our government, your problem. That's a good endough reason to know your way around American politics.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Heid the Ba » Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:59 pm

Enzo wrote:I wish I had such a grasp of Scotland/UK politics.

Ours is complicated by the multi-party system, and regional governments. My knowledge is tempered by a complete ignorance of state politics and an inability to remember which is which with House/Senate/Congress etc.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Heid the Ba » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:29 pm

Mueller now has Trump's bank records. I'm guessing they'll show money laundering and the Deutsch Bank hasn't reported any of the suspicious transactions the way they should.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Heid the Ba » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:58 am

Good FSM in kitchen, Alabama voted in the good guy.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Enzo » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:54 am

I was expecting a presidential tweet of "RIGGED, RIGGED...SAD"
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Heid the Ba » Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:03 pm

There was a very diplomatic tweet congratulating Jones, which means Trump had his 'phone taken from him.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby MM_Dandy » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:51 pm

Enzo wrote:I was expecting a presidential tweet of "RIGGED, RIGGED...SAD"


I think he said something along the lines of "This proves that the deck was stacked."
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Heid the Ba » Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:19 pm

In a state he won by 30 points a year ago?
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Arneb » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:18 pm

If he loses, that proves it was all rigged against him. Didn't you know?
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