Bigfoot

[Superluminal]

Well, its been awfull quiet around here lately(and I'm bored). So I guess I'll start something a little ATM. I live about 30 miles from an area that is famous for bigfoot sightings. (If you ever saw the movie "Legend of Boggy Creek", you'll know what I'm talking about.)

Having grown up hearing all sorts of wild tales from that area, and seeing the movie, I just have to ask people from that area what they think of the legend. Over the years about half the people I've talked to will laugh and say theres nothing out there, the rest say that they believe something is out there. I've met one person who claimed that he helped fake some sightings, and only one person who claimed to have seen the creature. Scared her so bad she move to Chicago, I think her name was Candy, (just kidding :D ).

Anyway, its a small town, that would hardly be noticed by the average person passing through. Except that now theres a museum, gift shop and a couple other tourist traps for the bored motorist.

[Candy]

Hey!

When I was little, I believed in Big Foot. I don't now.

I thought the guys that did the Big Foot hoax confessed a few years back. I thought they provided proof to the Big Foot outfit and feet used to scare people.

Time to google. :P

[Candy]

Here's what I found on such short notice. It's not the most reliable source, I know. :)

Bigfoot Hoaxes, Or Truth?

Sasquatch Speaks: The Truth Is Out There

Now it can be told: Bigfoot isn't real!

So says Bob Heironimus, a retired Pepsi bottler from Yakima, Wash., who reveals to the Reliable Source that he donned a gorilla costume and appeared in the famous grainy film clip that helped fuel the Bigfoot craze in 1967 and is studied by Bigfoot, Sasquatch and Yeti investigators to this day. "It's time people knew it was a hoax," Heironimus told us. "It's time to let this thing go. I've been burdened with this for 36 years, seeing the film clip on TV numerous times. Somebody's making lots of money off this, except for me. But that's not the issue -- the issue is that it's time to finally let people know the truth." Heironimus, 63, makes his full "confession," as he calls it, in a just-published book by paranormal investigator Greg Long, "The Making of Bigfoot." Long spent four years investigating the 60-second film clip and the people behind it. He traces the shaggy Bigfoot costume to a North Carolina gorilla suit specialist, Philip Morris, who says he sold it for $435 to an amateur documentary maker named Roger Patterson (who died in 1972). The hoax was staged near Bluff Creek in Northern California, according to Heironimus. "Patterson was the cameraman," Long tells us. "They made a gentleman's agreement that Bob would get in the suit and walk in front of the camera for $1,000." But, Heironimus says, "I was never paid a dime for that, no sir," and adds, "Sure I want to make some money. I feel that after 36 years I should get some of it." Backers of the Bigfoot legend include primatologist Jane Goodall, who was in Silver Spring last week to tout a new chimpanzee documentary that premieres tomorrow on Discovery Communications' Animal Planet network. Too busy to comment herself, Goodall authorized an aide, Nona Gandelman, to tell us she has read "countless books" about Bigfoot, Sasquatch, Yeti, Chinese wild men and other creatures. "She's spoken to people whom she respects who say they have seen one of these hominids," said Gandelman, "and to many other people she respects who have heard strange calls they thought were made by Bigfoot. As a scientist, she has a very open mind about this and has yet to close the door on the possibility." Bigfoot researcher John Green, a retired Canadian journalist, says the book doesn't disprove the existence of the mysterious beast. "It's all [expletive]," he told us. "There are going to be libel actions flying." Tom Malone, a lawyer in Minneapolis, called us Friday on behalf of Bob Gimlin, associate of the now-dead Bigfoot filmmaker. "I'm authorized to tell you that nobody wore a gorilla suit or monkey suit and that Mr. Gimlin's position is that it's absolutely false and untrue."

[Lance]

It's funny when the debunkers debunk the other debunkers.

[Superluminal]

I had a buddy in the AF Reserve who was a Miller Co. deputy sheriff. I had never asked him about BF until one day I came across his name in a newspaper article about a sighting. In the article he made the typical, noncommital, proffesional statements you would expect from a law enforcement officer. "Yeah, there were tracks and evidence something was there. But as of yet we have not determined what it was."

Next time I saw him, I said, "Hey read where you've out chasing BF." He just shook his head and with a look of disgust said, "Yeah and someday someone is going to shoot one of those Jones boys, and I hope I'm there to see it!". Most of the lawmen in the area believe the sightings are faked by one family. The true believers still think somethings out there and that the hoaxers are taking advantage to bring in tourists.

[gillianren]

there's a MSTie about it--The Legend of Boggy Creek II, I believe it's called. and that's the sign of a good conspiracy--it's made fun of by puppets.

[Superluminal]

"Return to Boggy Creek" is the movie I think you are thinking about. A terrible movie, made by the same guy who made "Legend of Boggy Creek". At least "Legend" was presented as a documentary. Good narration, decent nature photography, interviews with witnesses and one skeptic. Reenactments used local people for actors and since it was the guy's first movie, you can excuse the poor acting. At least the story ummm, was true in that the events were taken from newspaper and police reports.

"Return to Boggy Creek" was totally made up rubish, an excuse to get a couple of hot babes to bend over with their rear ends pointing at the camera. Oh and the hunky dude with the toothpicks for arms, was the producers son.

[gillianren]

I see. and no, it's very clearly The Legend of Boggy Creek II. I have it on tape.

[Lance]

It looks like there were three all together:

The Legend of Boggy Creek (1973)
The Barbaric Beast of Boggy Creek, Part II (1985)
aka "Boggy Creek II" - USA
aka "Boggy Creek II: And the Legend Continues" - USA
Return to Boggy Creek (1977)

IMDb is your friend.

[Superluminal]

It had been so long since I have seen it, and it wasn't really worth remembering. I've never seen "Return To Boggy Creek". But according to the filmography, pt 2 and "The Barbaric Beast of Boggy Creek" are the same movie. It premeired in a $ cinama, not a very good sign your going to be seeing quality, I was there the second night. A good crowd since it was a movie of local interest. But when it was over, about half the crowd had walked out.

[gillianren]

proving once again that the puppets make these movies much better. (which is why it's kind of strange that they're having such a hard time getting distribution rights to a lot of movies.)

[Superluminal]

Like your avatar, is that you? :wink:

[Lance]

Like your avatar, is that you? :wink:

I snuck in and gave her that. She might hate it.

[gillianren]

well, I'm amused by it, anyway. (she's in way better shape than I am!)

[Lance]

well, I'm amused by it, anyway. (she's in way better shape than I am!)

Might check your PMs...

[Mr. Manly]

I saw bigfoot once. That's the last time I let my weird aunt set me up on a blind date.

[Candy]

I saw bigfoot once. That's the last time I let my weird aunt set me up on a blind date.

Liar!