Enzo wrote:I was thinking more the oil would have to flow through radioactive pipelines over radioactive glass/soil, to radioactive port facilities, manned I suppose by radioactive Persians.
Enzo wrote:I note that no one is shouting for us to start domestic drilling anymore, offshore, ANWAR, now that gas has fallen back from the $4 level.
Enzo wrote:I was never quite sure about that. We want to not be dependent upon foreign oil... so we should pay more to find our local supply and use it up first? Then when that is gone we'd REALLY be dependent upon foreign oil.
Enzo wrote:Hmm, interesting. The solution is to step back and watch a middle east nuclear war? Israel has them, they'd use them. Not sure how much radioactive oil Iran could export...
Assuming we would be willing to abandon Israel, what makes you think Iran would want to abandon their quest for nuclear weapons? They would consider US as large a threat as Israel, if not greater, and they would also counter that other threats exist in the world and they would want to be able to defend against all of them, that their program was not purely anti-Israel
What makes you think they want to be a part of our war on terrorism? After all they sponsor parts of it, the terrorists of the world are looking to do us harm, not so much to blow up Iran.
Dragon Star wrote:Well IMO we aught to bomb the hell out of the middle east period ourselves, the place just sucks...as do the majority of the people.
Dragon Star wrote:Well IMO we aught to bomb the hell out of the middle east period ourselves, the place just sucks...as do the majority of the people.
Dragon Star wrote:As for the oil, Iran isn't the only source, if the price increases a little oh well, Obama will save us with massive taxes to the rich small businesses right? Yay for redistribution of wealth, or what I like to call, "Robin Hood Theory". I mean it works in folklore right?
Mactep wrote:Dragon Star wrote:Well IMO we aught to bomb the hell out of the middle east period ourselves, the place just sucks...as do the majority of the people.
Well, I agree with that. I feel the same way about the United States though.
Dragon Star wrote:As for the oil, Iran isn't the only source, if the price increases a little oh well, Obama will save us with massive taxes to the rich small businesses right? Yay for redistribution of wealth, or what I like to call, "Robin Hood Theory". I mean it works in folklore right?
I don't think the one has much to do with the other.
Enzo wrote:Iran considers us the Great Satan, and drills that into their people. Kinda like the way some people over here think the entire middle east is evil. Our support of arch enemy Israel is only part of it. They would not want to buddy up to us simply for leaving Israel alone.
That we even have troops on the soil of the holy land offends then greatly. All those bases in Saudi Arabia would have to go.
But that culture carries a grudge for centuries on end. They will hate us for generations.
If guy steals your lawn mower, shoots your dog, calls your wife a whore, and drives his 4-wheeler across your flower garden and lawn every morning, would you consider him a done issue if he decides to stop the driving on your lawn part?
Mactep wrote:Dragon Star wrote:And somehow not the rest of the world? Interesting.
Naughty Dragon, where did I say that?
Dragon Star wrote:No I was just wonder why the special treatment for only the US and the Middle East? :P
Enzo wrote:That we even have troops on the soil of the holy land offends then greatly. All those bases in Saudi Arabia would have to go.
Enzo wrote:Iran considers us the Great Satan, and drills that into their people. Kinda like the way some people over here think the entire middle east is evil. Our support of arch enemy Israel is only part of it. They would not want to buddy up to us simply for leaving Israel alone.
That we even have troops on the soil of the holy land offends then greatly. All those bases in Saudi Arabia would have to go.
But that culture carries a grudge for centuries on end. They will hate us for generations.
If guy steals your lawn mower, shoots your dog, calls your wife a whore, and drives his 4-wheeler across your flower garden and lawn every morning, would you consider him a done issue if he decides to stop the driving on your lawn part?
Mactep wrote:I thought the US was who the "we" was supposed to be in your post. In any event, of the others that come to mind, only Heid has nuclear weapons, Halcyon Dayz and Arneb don't.
I was under the impression that that part of Usama bin Ladn's programme had been achieved. Am I mistaken?
As soon as we fire the explosive bolts and drift off into the North Atlantic we'll be free of them.
Enzo wrote:Firth of Forth, meet Seventh of Nine.
Enzo wrote:We no longer have military bases in Suadi Arabia?
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