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Re: What sports teams do you support?

Postby Arneb » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:10 am

Netherlands vs. Austria, there's the perfect example of what we call an aversion-aversion conflict (at least for me).

I wouldn’t write off schland! quite yet.

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Re: What sports teams do you support?

Postby Lianachan » Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:42 am

Yes, difficult to muster much enthusiasm for Austria I must admit. My son was asking me how I could prefer Austria to the Netherlands, what with Hitler and all that. Best I could come up with was errr.. Mozart?
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Re: What sports teams do you support?

Postby Lianachan » Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:05 am

Richard A wrote:Mind you, most Englishmen completely fail to get this - and a lot else. A friend moved to Glasgow many years ago - in fact, Arneb and I, with our respective future spouses, met up with him there - but that’s another story. He told me that he was asked what team he supported. So being a good South London lad, he replied, “Crystal Palace”. The guy looked at him and thought, “stupid Englishman”. So he tried again. “Aye but what team do you support?” Martin now worked out what he actually meant, but had no time for it. So as his then girlfriend was from Airdrie, he said, “Hamilton Athletic”. Now the guy got really frustrated. “BUT WHAT TEAM DO YOU SUPPORT???” I got off more lightly when, also in Glasgow, I said, “I know who the Oranges are and I know who the Greens are, but who the hell are the Blues?” Apologies to Heid!

Yes, or "what school did you go to?" which is trying to find out precisely the same thing. I don't think you'd encouter this anywhere outside the greater Glasgow area, certainly not up here. I don't know how prevalent it is in the central belt more generally.
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Re: What sports teams do you support?

Postby Heid the Ba » Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:34 am

West of Scotland only, not really a thing in the east. Some parts of Fife used to be bad as miners had moved from the West to here but it isn't a thing any more.
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Re: What sports teams do you support?

Postby Heid the Ba » Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:36 am

Lianachan wrote:Yes, difficult to muster much enthusiasm for Austria I must admit. My son was asking me how I could prefer Austria to the Netherlands, what with Hitler and all that. Best I could come up with was errr.. Mozart?

Good ski-ing. The Mem used to work with Germans who described it as "Germany's ski resort". Good beer and surprisingly good wine. I quite like Austria but quite like Cloggistan as well.
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Re: What sports teams do you support?

Postby Lianachan » Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:02 pm

So, on balance it seems Scotland would probably have won if they had anybody who could score goals and were the better team. Richard may have a different view....

How do we score this for our tally? Neither Heid nor I follow Scotland, but a Richard draw?

Anyway:

Sweden 1 - 0 Slovakia
Croatia 1 - 1 Czech Republic
Brexitistan 0 - 0 Scotland
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Re: What sports teams do you support?

Postby Lianachan » Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:28 pm

A-màireach:

14:00 Hungary v France
17:00 DDD v ’Schland!
20:00 Spain v Poland
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Re: What sports teams do you support?

Postby Lianachan » Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:06 pm

Delighted to see racist English twitter complaining about not beating the 3rd lowest ranked team in the competition.

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Re: What sports teams do you support?

Postby Richard A » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:06 pm

My view was that last night was a lot better a game than some I’ve seen. Obviously I’d have liked a win, but at least it wasn’t as boring as the score suggested.

Germany’s goal just now disallowed - shame!
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Re: What sports teams do you support?

Postby Lianachan » Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:21 pm

Lianachan wrote:I wouldn’t write off schland! quite yet.

See? ‘Schland! Fat lady not singing yet of course, but I can hear her warming up in the wings.
Richard A wrote:My view was that last night was a lot better a game than some I’ve seen. Obviously I’d have liked a win, but at least it wasn’t as boring as the score suggested.

Was a fine game. I’d been expecting to lose 2-0. Our media is of course now talking about how we’ll be playing Netherlands in Hungary in the next round. Never mind the small matter of beating World Cup runners-up, Croatia first.
Richard A wrote:Germany’s goal just now disallowed - shame!

After that, then DDD’s prancing pony scoring I feared the worst.
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Re: What sports teams do you support?

Postby Richard A » Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:33 pm

Good to see Germany up 4-1. Portugal’s 2nd goal a reminder not to get complacent, but if Germany make sure they defend well, this should still be a good result.
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Re: What sports teams do you support?

Postby Arneb » Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:58 pm

Thank you, fat lady!

Portugal 2 - 4 'Schland

OK OK fine! I was to quick to write them off. But now we have to beat Hungary first...

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Re: What sports teams do you support?

Postby Lianachan » Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:53 pm

Spain are nothing like the team they were a few tournaments ago.

Today:

Hungary 1 - 1 France
DDD 2 - 4 ‘Schland!
Spain 1 - 1 Poland

Tomorrow, start of the last group games and of simultaneous matches.

17:00 Italy v Wales (yes, Italy, I know, sorry)
17:00 Switzerland v Turkey
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Re: What sports teams do you support?

Postby Arneb » Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:28 pm

I watched the evening game with Garrul, and man, am I one happy dad!
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Re: What sports teams do you support?

Postby Richard A » Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:21 pm

So you should be! And that win should have given the German team the confidence they need to give everything they've got in the Hungary game.
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Re: What sports teams do you support?

Postby Lianachan » Sun Jun 20, 2021 9:33 pm

So:

Italy 1 - 0 Wales
Switzerland 3 - 1 Turkey

Think that means Wales are through. Groups B & C tomorrow:

GROUP B

20:00 Finland v Belgium
20:00 Russia v Denmark

GROUP C

17:00 North Macedonia v Netherlands
17:00 Ukraine v Austria
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Re: What sports teams do you support?

Postby Arneb » Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:53 am

A North Macedonia win against the Netherlands would be quite the thing, but I am not putting my money on them...

I don't care much for Swisss football, but I am somewhat disappointed with the Turkish performance. Zero points, 1 - 8 goals in a group with Wales and Switzerland? That seems like it wasn't really necessary.

Italy are positivley frightening this season. They didn't have any really strong opposition (Wales, if any) but gaining 9 pts., going 7 - 0, winning handily against Wales with your substitute bench... Wow.
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Re: What sports teams do you support?

Postby Richard A » Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:33 pm

No, I'm not putting money on North Macedonia either. Italy are indeed impressive, but we knew they would be. But as Arneb says, who'd have thought that it would be Wales that came 2nd.

I may watch whichever Group C match is showing. Group B may be a bit late - I've had a sharp reminder today that there are other things besides covid out there and it's a school night.
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Re: What sports teams do you support?

Postby Lianachan » Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:51 pm

GROUP C

North Macedonia 0 - 3 Netherlands
Ukraine 0 - 1 Austria

GROUP B

Finland 0 - 2 Belgium
Russia 1 - 4 Denmark

Belgium and Denmark wins should mean Scotland will qualify for the next round as one of the best 3rd place finishers if, and it’s a HUGE if, they beat Croatia. If Czech Republic beat England and Scotland win, and the results are enough to reverse a 3 goal difference England advantage, then Scotland to through in 2nd place, and England almost certainly go through as a best 3rd places. This, of course, would be my preferred scenario, despite there being more chance of Elvis riding in to the stadium on Shergar than that combination occurring.

Not long to wait to find out. Tomorrow:

GROUP D

20:00 Croatia v Scotland
20:00 Czech Republic v England
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Re: What sports teams do you support?

Postby Heid the Ba » Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:04 am

I have no idea why the whole Scotland squad isn't quarantining.
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Re: What sports teams do you support?

Postby Lianachan » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:29 am

Billy Gilmour presumably wasn't near any other players on the pitch, cycled back on his own from the match, didn't celebrate getting MOTM on his first starting appearance, ate alone, wasn't in the hotel, etc... Entirely, er, plausible.
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Re: What sports teams do you support?

Postby Lianachan » Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:54 pm

No surprises.

Croatia 3 - 1 Scotland
Czech Republic 0 - 1 England
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Re: What sports teams do you support?

Postby Lianachan » Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:02 pm

Tomorrow:

GROUP E
17:00 Slovakia v Spain
17:00 Sweden v Poland

GROUP F
20:00 Germany v Hungary
20:00 Portugal v France
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Re: What sports teams do you support?

Postby Arneb » Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:30 am

I found England a bit disappointing, especially given that the Czechs were a rather weak opposition.
Our TV did not carry the Scotland game, but my, that Modric guy really still has it.

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'Schland tonight, do or die. We have a Hungarian house officer, and she is quite low-key these days. But let's see what happens when they beat us - which of course will never happen, we know from that South Korea game right?
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Re: What sports teams do you support?

Postby Arneb » Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:48 am

Just for kicks, here is a rundown of how the evening can turn out:

If Germany win against Hungary, we will reach the round of last 16...
- as group winner if Portugal win against France or if there is draw between them. That would pit us against Switzerland, Ukraine, or Finland in Bukarest next Monday
- as second in the group if France beat Portugal - That would pit us against England, in Wembley, next Tuesday

If Germany draw against Hungary, we will reach the round of last 16...
- as second in the group if France win against Portugal or if there is a draw between them. That would pit us against England, in Wembley, next Tuesday
- as third in the group if Portugal win against France. That would pit us against either Belgium or the Netherlands next Sunday, in Budapest or Seville.

If Germany lose against Hungary, we'll be last in the group and crash out of the tournament.we will...
- reach the round of last sixteen as third in the group if France win against Portugal, and IF the loss does not turn our + 1 GD into -1 or worse, or if some funny thing happens re. the fair play evaluation. Hazy on that. That would pit us against either Belgium or the Netherlands next Sunday, in Budapest or Seville.
- finish last in the group and crash out of the tournament if Portugal win against France or if there is a draw between them.
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