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Postby Мастер » Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:36 am

OK, this is as far along as I have ever gotten.

I have a mostly functional system on the home desktop, and am about to compile it for the laptop, although I'm still not sure if the wireless networking will work.

It is a home-built system, no binaries used, all the software running here was compiled on this machine itself. See http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/. The instructions for the basic system (called "Linux From Scratch") work pretty well, although some customisation of the kernel, depending on your particular hardware, seems inevitable. The instructions for additional software to be added to the system (called "Beyond Linux From Scratch") - that's a different story. This project has not been actively maintained, and the current version of BLFS corresponds to LFS five versions ago. Under LFS 6.8 (the current version), a lot of the BLFS packages won't even compile. Getting past that required (and still requires, since I need to install more packages) a lot of effort.

I have KDE 3.5.10 working, which provides a windowing environment. The web browser (which I am using right now) seems really clunky, I'll have to look at alternatives. I also have TeXLive working, so I can produce nice looking documents. I just can't look at them - the fonts on this system are awful. I really need to work on that.

Then I need to get Thunderbird and OpenOffice working. If I can manage that, I will have a system that does what I need it to do maybe 80% of the time. I'll have to work on the other 20%.

We'll see how this goes . . .
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Postby Мастер » Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:12 am

Well, I've got Thunderbird up and staring at me on a Linux box. Never been this far along before. It doesn't have my email accounts setup, I need to copy my T-bird profile over from the other machine. But this is encouraging.

Maybe I should try Firefox next, and if the fonts look like shit on that one, I'll know it's the system, and not the particular browser.
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Postby Lance » Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:17 pm

Or you could just run Windows 7...
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Postby Мастер » Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:27 pm

I have Windows 7. That's why I'm doing this.

It's a rare day now when the computer doesn't freeze up so badly that the mouse pointer won't even move, at least half a dozen times :(
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Re: Linux

Postby MM_Dandy » Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:10 pm

Mactep wrote:OK, this is as far along as I have ever gotten.

I have a mostly functional system on the home desktop, and am about to compile it for the laptop, although I'm still not sure if the wireless networking will work.

It is a home-built system, no binaries used, all the software running here was compiled on this machine itself. See http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/. The instructions for the basic system (called "Linux From Scratch") work pretty well, although some customisation of the kernel, depending on your particular hardware, seems inevitable. The instructions for additional software to be added to the system (called "Beyond Linux From Scratch") - that's a different story. This project has not been actively maintained, and the current version of BLFS corresponds to LFS five versions ago. Under LFS 6.8 (the current version), a lot of the BLFS packages won't even compile. Getting past that required (and still requires, since I need to install more packages) a lot of effort.


This sounds like a lot of pain. Despite it's support and the all the assurances from my GNU/Linux supporting peers, I've never had a straight-forward experience making system changes under Ubuntu or Mandriva. Kudos to you for even getting this far.

Mactep wrote:I have KDE 3.5.10 working, which provides a windowing environment. The web browser (which I am using right now) seems really clunky, I'll have to look at alternatives. I also have TeXLive working, so I can produce nice looking documents. I just can't look at them - the fonts on this system are awful. I really need to work on that.
Would that be Konqueror? I've heard pretty good reviews for it, and can't say that my experience with it was worse than any other browser.

Mactep wrote:Then I need to get Thunderbird and OpenOffice working. If I can manage that, I will have a system that does what I need it to do maybe 80% of the time. I'll have to work on the other 20%.

We'll see how this goes . . .

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Re: Linux

Postby Мастер » Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:10 pm

MM_Dandy wrote:Would that be Konqueror? I've heard pretty good reviews for it, and can't say that my experience with it was worse than any other browser.


It would indeed.

At least part of the clunkiness would appear to be from the fonts, which is a system-wide problem (working on it). Some other things don't work - maybe I need to install/configure add-ons like Java script or that sort of thing.
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