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Lance wrote:How much do you non-USAans pay attention to our current (joke of a) presidential race?
Lance wrote:And if you had a vote, who would you pick?
Arneb wrote:Considering that US Presidents have a rather large foorprint in the world (just ask people torn to shreds in a drone attack or held in GITMO, both without without charge, hearing, habeas corpus or appeal), no-one can afford to be totally disinterested.
Lianachan wrote:I appreciate that whoever is the next president will be globally significant, I just don't give a fuck because I don't think it matters who it actually is.
Heid the Ba' wrote:I think Clinton is the best of a bad lot. Cruz or Trump would be actively harmful to the US and the RoW, Clinton would only be passively harmful. The problem is that Cruz and particularly Trump have moved things so far off the normal scale that Clinton (a woman!) will either be hamstrung or have to pander to the nutters.
Heid the Ba' wrote:I'm afraid that the US seems to be regressing when everyone else is moving forwards.
Lance wrote:I think the idea of democracy never took large groups of stupid people into account. It's ironic that the majority of the GOP base are the same people most hurt by conservative policies.
MM_Dandy wrote:You weren't asking me, but I'll put my two cents in, anyway: they're circus clowns, the lot of 'em. When our primary rolls around, I'll probably vote Carson. In the presidential election, I'll probably vote against Trump or Cruz.
Arneb wrote:Which is so ironic since the Conservative party in the UK are coloured blue, and Communism alsway was associated with the colour red.
Arneb wrote:Yeah, the animals are quite appropriate.
Maybe Hillary is a viable candidate because she isn't too donkey-ish. We had an article here in our left-leaning news magazine that denigrated her and Bill for redesigingin the Democratic Party into a more centrist GOP (reform of the Penal Code, deregulation of the banking sector...) thus committing treason to true liberal values. Indeed, it seems the GOP now who are in trouble for being too pure.
Heid the Ba' wrote:[Tedious Scottish aside]In most of Scotland the Labour Party were the footsoldiers of the "No" vote at the referendum as they were the only party with a presence. They are hated with a passion here for selling out and doing the Tories dirty work. I have just seen a couple of Labour supporters campaigning to stay in Europe be roundly abused by the public who made it very clear that while they would vote to stay in it was despite Labour not because of them.[/Tedious Scottish aside]
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