Bill_Thompson wrote:How can something be both new and improved at the same time?
Lance wrote:Well, lets look at a particular type of product:
First there was the corn cob. It was cheap, plentiful and did a decent job.
Then, along came toilet paper...
This new product performed an old task in an improved way.
FLASH: New Toilet Paper provides Improved Cleaning!
New and Improved.
Works for me.
Lonewulf wrote:Easy. It means that you made something different, *and* better. Just like something could be "New and Unimproved!" Which is perfectly possible; new product, but it does pretty much the same thing in a different way.
Halcyon Dayz wrote:It is marketing speak.
Doesn't have to mean anything.
Just sound good.
Bill_Thompson wrote:Improved implies an alteration on an existing item and thus not new.
Lonewulf wrote:Bill_Thompson wrote:Improved implies an alteration on an existing item and thus not new.
What if I invented an OS that was entirely like Windows, only better? But it was named differently? New and Improved.
Lonewulf wrote:Easy. It means that you made something different, *and* better. Just like something could be "New and Unimproved!" Which is perfectly possible; new product, but it does pretty much the same thing in a different way.
Bill_Thompson wrote:Things are either new or they are improved. They cannot be both.
Lance wrote:Bill_Thompson wrote:Things are either new or they are improved. They cannot be both.
Did you miss my toilet paper example?
Bill_Thompson wrote:Lance wrote:Bill_Thompson wrote:Things are either new or they are improved. They cannot be both.
Did you miss my toilet paper example?
Khrushchev's Other Shoe
Lance wrote:Bill_Thompson wrote:Lance wrote:Bill_Thompson wrote:Things are either new or they are improved. They cannot be both.
Did you miss my toilet paper example?
Khrushchev's Other Shoe
Yeah, so? It still disproves your point.
Lance wrote:FLASH: New Toilet Paper provides Improved Cleaning!
New and Improved.
Works for me.
Bill_Thompson wrote:No, Lance, an improved way or task is not an improved item. It is a new item, not an improved one.
Bill_Thompson wrote:The toilet paper itself is not improved.
Lance wrote:Bill_Thompson wrote:The toilet paper itself is not improved.
But what it does, is.
Khrushchev's Other Shoe wrote:Too much analysis here. It is just a small irony to be appreciated, if some don't find it humorous that's fine, but do you really want to argue about this?
Lance wrote:Yeah, you're right.
Everyone but Bill gets it anyways, and we all know he refuses to learn new and improved ideas so it's not worth it.
We win!
Lance wrote:Khrushchev's Other Shoe wrote:Too much analysis here. It is just a small irony to be appreciated, if some don't find it humorous that's fine, but do you really want to argue about this?
Yeah, you're right.
Everyone but Bill gets it anyways, and we all know he refuses to learn new and improved ideas so it's not worth it.
We win!
Bill_Thompson wrote:You only think you win because you either choose to ignore this or you somehow don't get it.
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